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  •  Not really. (6+ / 0-)

    They're hollowing out SS, Medicare and Medicaid just to pay for those stupid wars and keep a ridiculously large military.

    "Michael Moore, who was filming a movie about corporate welfare called 'Capitalism: A Love Story,' sought and received incentives."

    by Bush Bites on Sun Jan 13, 2013 at 08:49:30 AM PST

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    •  How do you think the wealth was generated (2+ / 0-)
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      regardless of where it is now being used?

      What do you think the 50s, and 60s and 70s wealth came from?


      it came from the US's dominance in the world economy and a historic reality that the other countries were devastated. In return for shutting up the middle class was given things like SS and other benefits and low cost mortgages etc

      So when you say "not really" this is just denial and is a part of the reason we see things happening as they do.

      The middle class is fearful of losing that bargain

      •  Actually, it's even earlier than that (0+ / 0-)

        For about 150 years, from 1820 to 1970, there was a labor shortage in America.  The job of "opening the frontier" -- that is, exploiting the lands we stole from the people who we killed to get those lands -- required lots of warm bodies to accomplish, so employers were forced to keep paying higher and higher wages.  Furthermore, if you didn't like your boss, you could always light out for the territories and hunt, fish or farm.

        This all ended in the early 1970s, as the computer took away tens of millions of jobs at the same time as women entered the workforce on a large scale.  But the workers couldn't accept that the American Dream was over, so they tried to delay the day of reckoning by going massively into debt, via mortgages, student loans and credit cards.  That bubble popped in 2007, leaving us where we are right now.

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        by Phoenix Woman on Sun Jan 13, 2013 at 03:09:49 PM PST

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