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  •  I bet most of them have never even heard (11+ / 0-)

    of Orthodox let alone Coptic Christians, and that they view Catholicism as a pagan cult. As for us Jews, well, we're useful as far as bringing about the second coming goes, but after that, we're screwed.

    This is what bad education, social and cultural isolation and a culture of paranoia and conformity does to you, rendering much of your brain useless.

    "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

    by kovie on Sat Jan 12, 2013 at 07:04:28 AM PST

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    •  Well, I find it interesting that they don't glean (8+ / 0-)

      from the Gospels the very obvious fact that Jesus came from a strong rabbinical tradition. He teaches like a rabbi. He thinks like a rabbi. He argues like a rabbi. Jesus, I would like to think, would rather have us approaching scripture like Jews, not like fundamentalist Christians do, that is, in an absolutist way (of course there are fundamentalist Jews too). These people have their minds firmly shut like a steel trap, and any wisdom contained in holy books is therefore beyond their ability to access.

      What is truth? -- Pontius Pilate

      by commonmass on Sat Jan 12, 2013 at 07:15:01 AM PST

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      •  What they most don't understand, or are willing to (6+ / 0-)

        admit, even to themselves, that while they might believe that theirs is the one true version of Christianity, it's not the only potentially true version of it, let alone the only version of it, and that their version is the one true version only on faith, not fact, like all religions, including my own. They don't seem able or willing to acknowledge the key difference between faith and fact. They are right, we are wrong, end of discussion, stop wasting my time.

        But they're more than happy to drive cars and use cell phones that rely upon a scientific and logical view of the world that they claim to reject. Sigh.

        "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

        by kovie on Sat Jan 12, 2013 at 07:27:02 AM PST

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      •  When my husband was in high school (3+ / 0-)

        he attended Youth Group (for social reasons) at hisBaptis church. They Youth Minister  made an anti-Semitic remark one day. Husband pointed out  Jesus was a Jew.

        YM: No, He was not. Jesus was a Baptist, because He was baptized by John the Baptist.

        Husband was ostracized in Youth Group at the behest of the YM.

        Husband is now a Wiccan and has been for 35 years..

        The last time we mixed religion and politics people got burned at the stake.

        by irishwitch on Sat Jan 12, 2013 at 12:22:08 PM PST

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        •  There was a case somewhere where (2+ / 0-)
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          I can't remember if it was a priest or a bishop was giving a 'Jesus and Mary as 1st century Jews' homily. He got a great deal of jeering while he was preaching it. When a woman near the front accused him of sounding 'like a rabbi', he stopped talking and thanked her for the compliment - "That was what they called our Lord."

          I still remember being rather surprised when I found out the timing of Hanukkah's origins - that the handful of kids who had made fun of the Jewish kids at school for celebrating Hanukkah were mocking people for celebrating a holiday Jesus may have grown up celebrating an early form of. Of course, my church never mentioned this when we were all growing up, because that would have meant acknowledging that the Apocrypha exist and that those books contain actual historical details that have influenced other people outside our little Southern Baptist 'not much important happened between the Temple rebuilding post-Exile and Jesus' view of Middle Eastern history.

          Prayers and best wishes to those in Japan.

          by Cassandra Waites on Sat Jan 12, 2013 at 05:03:53 PM PST

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