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  •  How much public funding makes "publicly funded"? (5+ / 0-)
    If you got a publicly funded education, a publicly funded internship, etc, why shouldn't the benefits of that be public? Don't take public money if you don't want to share what that money pays for.
    So anyone receiving funding from the public no longer has the rights to their own intellectual property? The second I take public funding, any work I do is now the property of the public and should be freely and publicly available?
    I was going to just be nice and let you have your "what about me!" moment. But I'm damned sick of it. That attitude is what drove this young man to his death.
    I sympathize with that young man, as many people I respect and admire had a great deal of esteem for him, and I don't think he should have been facing the level of prosecution he should have been facing.

    But that doesn't mean that I am willing to give away the result of years of work on my part for free, not given the amount of time and energy I've invested in it—an amount of labor for which a fair market wage would dwarf the amount of assistantship funding I've received.

    And that doesn't mean that I am in any way guilty for his suicide for not wanting to give away the results of my labor for free.

    Get out of my diary with your "how dare you tell me I can't make money after the public funded part of all of my education." I paid for my education. Lots of money. And still, I would share anything I know.
    That's nice. That's your choice. But you don't get to make that choice for others, nor are you in any way qualified to sit in judgment of those who aren't willing to give the result of years of their labor for free.

    "When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a communist." --Dom Helder Camara, archbishop of Recife

    by JamesGG on Sat Jan 12, 2013 at 04:30:05 PM PST

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    •  You are conflating reading of the results with (4+ / 0-)
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      the use of the results to make a product or found a company. That is covered by technology transfer agreements with the university. If you think you can take the results of your research and set up a company or sell the rights of that research to a company without the permission and usually part interest in royalties by the University you are woefully underinformed.  This is about the ability to read  the research and maybe allow somebody who is in a company that would like to invest in your work and make you rich,  to even hear about your wonderous research since many companies do not want to pay the usual $39 to $46 cost of downloading a paper published in an Elsievers Journal.

      I'd tip you but they cut off my tip box. The TSA would put Moses, Jesus, and Muhammad on the no-fly list.

      by OHdog on Sat Jan 12, 2013 at 04:57:36 PM PST

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    •  You're missing the point (8+ / 0-)

      Much of that information is in the public domain. The fee to access it is to cover the cost. There was nothing stolen. If Swartz provided another means of access that should reduce the investment needed to store and access that information.

      There is no IP issue involved.

      Others have simply gotten old. I prefer to think I've been tempered by time.

      by Just Bob on Sat Jan 12, 2013 at 05:38:39 PM PST

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