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  •  One more dated wanted (4.00)
    Diaried yesterday about the performance awards for the so-called military analysts who worked on the aluminum tubes (http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/5/28/184452/747).

    When were those awards requested?  July 2002?

    Who requested those awards?  Who approved them?

    Want to bet the timing coordinates with this timeline for bombing campaign, as well as the Downing Street dossier?

    •  Rayne... run with this! (none)
      Excellent points, and would be great fuel to keep the fire going. Hope to see you and other Kossacks research this... (I have my hands full with our part alas).
      •  I did a google-run (none)
        on George Norris and Robert Campos- absolutely NOTHING came up.  It's like these guys are completely off the grid.

        I went in search of the date of these awards and there's nothing posted.

        Any ideas?

        here boo, here boo, want a cookie? good girl.

        by tepster on Sun May 29, 2005 at 11:57:04 AM PDT

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        •  I myself don't have any... (none)
          ... I am hoping you, Rayne, and others will dig into this... it looks promising and would be another devastating punch in our effort. Go for it.
          •  Hands full already (none)
            Been working on ePluribus Media story, can't take the time to do this one.

            But I think I'd be hampered anyhow; this might be a request that Rep. Conyers' office could initiate with the Pentagon.  

            Rep. Conyers?

        •  Pure speculation here but... (none)
          remember how one of the NSA intercepts John Bolton requested and that was seen by Roberts and Rockerfeller (with the analysts names redacted) was allegedly used by Bolton in order that he could congratulate and thank the analyst? Wonder if the WaPo story naming these analysts "rewards" connects to Bolton at all? Hmmmmmmm anyway, interesting timing of both stories, but might just be a coincidence.
          •  can you post a link to that story? (none)

            I'd be interested to read it for myself.
            •  here ya go... (none)
              link to WaPo article:
              Two Army analysts whose work has been connected to a major intelligence shortcoming on Iraq have received awards for job performance over the last few years, according to officials.
              ...
              The commission deemed their agency's assessment of the aluminum tubes as a "gross failure." The agency was "completely wrong," the panel said, when it judged in September 2002 that the tubes Iraq was purchasing were "highly unlikely" to be used for rocket motor cases because of their "material and tolerances."

              The panel found that aluminum tubes with similar tolerances were used in a previous Iraqi rocket, the Nasser 81, and that the International Atomic Energy Agency had published details about the system in 1996, as did the Energy Department in 2001.

              The panel's report said "the two primary NGIC rocket analysts said they did not know the dimensions" of the older Nasser 81 rocket and were unaware of the IAEA and Energy Department reports. The report did not name the analysts, but officials told The Post that the panel was referring to George Norris and Robert Campos.


              Article doesn't mention Bolton, but hey, with these clowns, anything is possible.

              There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics. --Benjamin Disraeli, cited by Mark Twain

              by sheba on Sun May 29, 2005 at 07:29:35 PM PDT

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    •  $20,000 bonus to official who agreed on nuke claim (none)
      Energy Dept. honcho ordered dissenters at Iraq pre-briefing to 'shut up, sit down'
      Posted: August 12, 2003
      1:00 a.m. Eastern

      By Paul Sperry
      © 2003 WorldNetDaily.com

      WASHINGTON - A former Energy Department intelligence chief who agreed with the White House claim that Iraq had reconstituted its defunct nuclear-arms program was awarded a total of $20,500 in bonuses during the build-up to the war, WorldNetDaily has learned.

      Thomas Ryder, as acting director of Energy's intelligence office, overruled senior intelligence officers on his staff in voting for the position at a National Foreign Intelligence Board meeting at CIA headquarters last September.

      His officers argued at a pre-briefing at Energy headquarters that there was no hard evidence to support the alarming Iraq nuclear charge, and asked to join State Department's dissenting opinion, Energy officials say.

      Ryder ordered them to "shut up and sit down," according to sources familiar with the meeting.

      As a result, State was the intelligence community's lone dissenter in the key National Intelligence Estimate on Iraq's alleged weapons of mass destruction, something the Bush administration is quick to remind critics of its prewar intelligence. So far no banned weapons have been found in Iraq to confirm its charges.

      The secret 90-page report, prepared Oct. 1, was rushed to sway members of Congress ahead of a key vote on granting the White House war-making authority. It also formed the underlying evidence for the White House's decision to go to war.

      Energy Secretary Spencer Abraham gave Ryder a $13,000 performance bonus after the NIE report was released and just before the war, department sources say. He had received an additional $7,500 before the report.

      "That's a hell of a lot of money for an intelligence director who had no experience or background in intelligence, and who'd only been running the office for nine months," said one source who requested anonymity. "Something's fishy."

      Ryder declined to talk about the payments.

      [...]

      •  Sounds like we need a paper to offer (none)
        him money.

        Sounds like the kinda guy that would say something if money was involved:)

        Think there must be people in the US government that have similar info but they are not talking.....but I'm sure many of them have keep evidence....

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