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  •  Andrew F Cockburn: the Boy Scouts aren't like that (6+ / 0-)

    anymore. There's plenty of (hard right anti-homosexual pro-evangelical Christianist) ideology now, and not nearly as much skill instruction. Best I can tell the change started around 1995...

    LBJ, Lady Bird, Anne Richards, Barbara Jordan, Sully Sullenberger, Ike, Drew Brees, Molly Ivins --Texas is no Bush league! -7.50,-5.59

    by BlackSheep1 on Sun Jan 13, 2013 at 06:04:33 PM PST

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    •  I agree, but when I was one that (2+ / 0-)
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      wasn't obvious. I am not sure that I would have recognized a hard-right anti-homosexual ideology at that time, although I already was disgusted with evangelical Christianity.

      My brother completed all of the requirements for Eagle Scout but was denied it because the local minister refused to write a letter certifying his Christian faith despite having served as an altar boy for yeras. In defense of the minister, he was entirely correct in his evaluation of my brother's faith...

      •  once upon a time Scouting recognized (7+ / 0-)

        twelve points of the Scout Law. My sons both achieved Life Scout, my SO Eagle; none of them is now affiliated with Scouting because of the rabidity of the anti-homosexual, anti-tolerance of other faith stand the Scouts have taken since their national headquarters moved to Dallas.

        LBJ, Lady Bird, Anne Richards, Barbara Jordan, Sully Sullenberger, Ike, Drew Brees, Molly Ivins --Texas is no Bush league! -7.50,-5.59

        by BlackSheep1 on Sun Jan 13, 2013 at 07:00:10 PM PST

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        •  I agree (2+ / 0-)
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          I was in Boy Scouts and I always thought it was cool that there were so many things to do.  For our cycling badge my dad, a triathlete came and talked to is about bicycle safety and maintenance.  This was in 1990 when the crazy was still simmering.  I can't imagine what it's like now.  Do you have to earn the homophobia badge to become an Eagle Scout?

    •  Before then. Look at their move from NJ to Texas (3+ / 0-)

      That was due to a different group of leadership taking the BSA in a new direction from its roots. Late 70s I think, early 80s the absolute latest.

      They are now completely beholden to the LDS church, as 1 out of 3 scouts is a Mormon boy. 50 percent of all Boy Scout troops are Mormon, as their troop units are smaller than he average.

      If they stop discriminating against gays, the LDS leadership will withdraw every one of their families' sons from the program ( where it's essentially integrated with the church if you're LDS).

      •  Ours was a United Methodist church, but (2+ / 0-)
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        the Scouts were the big draw for families with kids the right age there.

        Then a new pastor arrived and within six months the Scouts were gone.

        Out of the building, both Girl Scouts and Boy Scouts -- and the BSA troop there had just celebrated its 35th year.

        New pastor got moved a few months later but the church / troop never recovered, and several years later efforts to bring back Scouting with a Venture crew also flopped. Very sad.

        LBJ, Lady Bird, Anne Richards, Barbara Jordan, Sully Sullenberger, Ike, Drew Brees, Molly Ivins --Texas is no Bush league! -7.50,-5.59

        by BlackSheep1 on Sun Jan 13, 2013 at 08:47:21 PM PST

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