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  •  The Preferred Option (1+ / 0-)
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    This diary begs the question of what the President can -- or, rather, should -- do if the Republicans aren't bluffing and the debt limit is reached with no work around.  As the diary says, the President can't spend appropriated money unless there is money on hand to spend.  Which means that in the absence of money, the President need not comply with the laws that appropriate spending.

    Which means the President has discretion in deciding which bills to pay and which ones not to pay.

    And that means, if I were the President, the option of laying off every federal employee in a Congressional district represented by a Republican.  I would also lay off every Congressional staffer, every Congressional secretary, and all the security guards at the Capitol.  Let the Congressfucks type their own tripe and protect themselves.

    If the Republicans want to push it to the point where there isn't enough money to pay all the bills, they are handing the President a weapon of (Republican) mass destruction.  Unfortunately for us, Obama is not the kind of person to try something so nasty (and potentially effective).

    So all I can say is that the Republicans are lucky they're dealing with Barack  Obama instead of a Democratic version of Nixon.  Or me.

    This aggression will not stand, man.

    by kaleidescope on Mon Jan 14, 2013 at 03:32:33 PM PST

    •  You are right. He's not Nixon. My (4+ / 0-)
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      sense is that it will be done on a pro rata basis across the board. It is sad but true that the best way to bring political pressure is to to affect the largest number of people and that includes seniors and, unfortunately, some of the most vulnerable. You can rest assured that if the Department of Health and Human Services  sends out a letter advising tens of millions of seniors that their Social Security checks are going to be reduced because of Congresses' inaction, the limit will be raised.

      Further, affiant sayeth not.

      by Gary Norton on Mon Jan 14, 2013 at 03:52:56 PM PST

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      •  This suggestion just might work (1+ / 0-)
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        You can rest assured that if the Department of Health and Human Services  sends out a letter advising tens of millions of seniors that their Social Security checks are going to be reduced because of Congresses' inaction, the limit will be raised.
        Obama does have some real leverage here if he decides to use it.

        look for my eSci diary series Thursday evening.

        by FishOutofWater on Mon Jan 14, 2013 at 04:07:13 PM PST

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      •  As long as the public understands (2+ / 0-)
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        it's the Republicans in the "Congress."

      •  Theoretically He May Have The Power To Decide (2+ / 0-)
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        what gets funded and what doesn't, but I think a key question is how much choice the current accounting computer systems can in practice accomodate on short notice with no serious re-programing.  

        This is, after all, a highly PRACTICAL problem in a dimension orthogonal to all the legal theory.

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