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  •  Gary, I think you missed one factor. (1+ / 0-)
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    Here, analyzing the politics:

    This is actually the boldest step he could take it is also the step most likely to succeed because it is a pure political challenge involving the power of a President who is just been reelected against a very unpopular Congress. As such it is by far the most likely to succeed.
    I agree wholeheartedly. There is an additional factor, particularly significant in the House, that the Republican Party is split to two sub-caucuses. Look to the Fiscal Cliff breakout, the 2013 changes, and you see three pools of votes:

    -- Regular Democrats - 201 Members

    -- Business Republicans - 84 Members

    -- Birch Society Republicans - 150 Members

    We've stopped using the "Tea Party" tag.

    That was a populist movement for all of 6 months in 2009 before the Big Money steamrolled them. Freedom Works had taken over by the 2010 election cycle -- same money as the John Birch Society since 1959, same paranoid issue positions as the web site.

    The split of Bizzies and Birchers is an open wound. The Birchers started rolling up Bizzy seats in 1984-2000 and again in 2010. Now it's open warfare in the House.

    A coalition of Democrats and centerist Bizzies could move ahead, particularly if the understanding spread rapidly that the Far Right is mostly a collection of Birchers and birthers.

    This reverses four years of pro-democracy operations avoiding saying these extremists are Birchers. Obviously they are. Follow the (Koch) money. Read through their official statements -- same money, same results.

    "We have done nothing to be ashamed of. We have nothing to apologize for." NRA 12/14/2012

    by bontemps2012 on Tue Jan 15, 2013 at 04:10:21 AM PST

    •  Yes, I think we may expect to see more House votes (2+ / 0-)
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      like there was on the Cliff bill.

      Further, affiant sayeth not.

      by Gary Norton on Tue Jan 15, 2013 at 07:30:23 AM PST

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      •  Hurricane Sandy votes went the same way. (0+ / 0-)

        The Birchers got 180 votes.

        Up from 150 at the FC. More hate-NYC for that one.

        "We have done nothing to be ashamed of. We have nothing to apologize for." NRA 12/14/2012 "Have you left no sense of decency, sir, at long last?" Army/McCarthy 1954

        by bontemps2012 on Thu Jan 17, 2013 at 09:37:19 AM PST

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