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  •  Don't forget about water rights (3+ / 0-)

    As a separate "nation" they wouldn't be party to the Great Lakes Compact an agreement between Canada and the states that border the Great Lakes that governs the use of the water in the lakes.

    Current law prohibits the sale of water from the Great Lakes in containers larger than 5.7 gallons.

    Republicans have been trying to exploit this loophole for years in attempts to sell water to states and nations that don't have enough.  Looks like they've just found a work-around in this proposal - buy an island in a channel smack dab in the middle of the Great Lakes, build a pipeline and sell all the water you want.

    It's about controlling shipping and selling water.  

    Democratic Leaders must be very clear they stand with the working class of our country. Democrats must hold the line in demanding that deficit reduction is done fairly -- not on the backs of the elderly, the sick, children and the poor.

    by Betty Pinson on Tue Jan 15, 2013 at 07:34:33 PM PST

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    •  Except that the pipeline... (2+ / 0-)
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      ...would have to pass along US territory. I also suspect that the water in the river channel might not be as clean and clear as their customers would like.

      Float like a manhole cover, sting like a sash weight! Clean Coal Is A Clinker!

      by JeffW on Tue Jan 15, 2013 at 07:52:47 PM PST

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      •  They'll process it on the island (2+ / 0-)
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        Then ship it to customers. The Great Lakes Compact doesn't restrict the transportation of water for sale through the US, it only restricts the withdrawing of the water for commercial sale.

        There's huge demand for water from the Great Lakes, the pressure to sell it has been around for decades.

        Water Export

        Democratic Leaders must be very clear they stand with the working class of our country. Democrats must hold the line in demanding that deficit reduction is done fairly -- not on the backs of the elderly, the sick, children and the poor.

        by Betty Pinson on Tue Jan 15, 2013 at 08:03:22 PM PST

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        •  Big mark-up! n/t (0+ / 0-)

          Float like a manhole cover, sting like a sash weight! Clean Coal Is A Clinker!

          by JeffW on Tue Jan 15, 2013 at 08:15:20 PM PST

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        •  *Teeny* issue (3+ / 0-)
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          The Great Lake Compact might not say anything specific, but the 1909 International Boundary Waters Treaty does. Specifically, use of water has to be approved by the International Joint Commission. The Water Resources Development Act of the US prohibits anyone from exporting water outside the Basin (regardless of who actually extracts the water) without the approval of all the Great Lakes governors.

          If someone tried to claim that a quasi-independent island nation of rich folks would be able to do that, well, if they're all separate from the US, it wouldn't violate any treaties or alliances for Canada to deal with a rogue nation of water thieves, would it?

          •  Let's hope that sticks (2+ / 0-)
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            Because I have a feeling that's what they're after.  Why else would the big money folks be looking to buy it?

            Democratic Leaders must be very clear they stand with the working class of our country. Democrats must hold the line in demanding that deficit reduction is done fairly -- not on the backs of the elderly, the sick, children and the poor.

            by Betty Pinson on Tue Jan 15, 2013 at 10:54:12 PM PST

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      •  IIRC, City of Detroit tap water (1+ / 0-)
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        comes out of the Detroit River.  I grew up drinking that stuff; it's pretty good!  Cleaner than you might think.

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