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  •  hmm,, was Aaron offered (2+ / 0-)
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    chimene, Neuroptimalian

    a 6 month plea deal?

    •  Good point to bring up: plea bargains (10+ / 0-)

      He was offered a deal that involved confessing to 13+ felonies, with all the attendant lifelong consequences.

      Through Twitter, I learned of this old scholarly article, which points out the similarities of our plea-bargaining system to medieval and Renaissance torture, which uses exorbitant threats in order to obtain a confession, even if false.

      Think -- being intimidated and coerced into confessing to crimes that you don't believe you committed could be even more psychologically damaging than prison.

      If we want systemic solutions, we should also be talking about the expanding powers of prosecutors and the perversions of the plea-bargaining system.

    •  in exchange for pleading guilty to a felony, yes (2+ / 0-)
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      at least that's my understanding.

      if necessary for years; if necessary, alone

      by SouthernLiberalinMD on Tue Jan 15, 2013 at 04:32:12 PM PST

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    •  Hmmmmm???? (1+ / 0-)
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      Did you read what I quoted? What is was that pissed me off? It was their smarmy "out of respect to the family" excuse.

      But if you want to make an issue of it, I know how it works. "We don't give a shit how smart you think you are kid. Take the deal and like it.... or else."

      When I don't think I'm guilty of something - and having been falsely accused at one time in my life - I don't take kindly to threats. Aaron Swartz was an idealist ; they wanted to kill that and prove to themselves who was the real smart guy. Yeah, I know these asshole types very well.

      All just my opinion,  of course. Not setting myself off as a legal expert or that I have any inside knowledge of this particular case. Just that I do have some of the legal world and those who live in the prosecutorial part of it.

      Inspiration is hard to come by. You have to take it where you find it. --- Bob Dylan.

      by figbash on Tue Jan 15, 2013 at 05:26:53 PM PST

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      •  If he didn't think he was guilty of anything, ... (0+ / 0-)

        he wouldn't have attempted to hide his face from surveillance cameras.

        "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the universe." -- Albert Einstein

        by Neuroptimalian on Tue Jan 15, 2013 at 05:45:51 PM PST

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    •  Yes, he was offered a 6-month deal. (0+ / 0-)

      There was even talk of him serving as little as four months.  But according to his attorney, Swartz didn't want to serve any time at all and didn't want to be "known as a felon".

      The fact that he attempted to hide his face from surveillance cameras says a lot.

      "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the universe." -- Albert Einstein

      by Neuroptimalian on Tue Jan 15, 2013 at 05:44:18 PM PST

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