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    MBNYC, cocinero, Smoh, Miggles, shaharazade
    I believe firmly that in order to reduce the ill effects of modern society, it is necessary to increase the benefits of being a good Citizen, rather than trying to legislate against its aberrations.
    Other countries legislate with worst case scenarios in mind especially with dangerous things like guns. Now lets see what conclusions we can draw from this. Oh yes - they also have zero to way fewer mass shootings.
    •  "Other Countries" is a false analogy (2+ / 0-)
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      Not to mention the "whack-a-mole scenario. Britain's "nanny state" is erupting all over. It has become  a most violent place. Knives have replaced guns.
       The so called "successes" of other Countries have little bearing on the psyche of the American public.

      "The United States is a nation of laws: badly written and randomly enforced." -Zappa My Site

      by meagert on Tue Jan 15, 2013 at 09:20:55 AM PST

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      •  I just wish the sandy hook shooter only had a knif (0+ / 0-)

        e.  There would not be anything near 20 children dead and six adults.

        Knife violence is a big issue but one where the UK at least has laws with teeth for a number of knives and the use of them in public.

        In no way does any city in the UK have the amount of murders as major cities such as Chicago and Detroit.  That there are murders due to knives is one thing. To compare its lethality and the chance of subduing someone who has one to guns is comparing a cartoon to public hangings.

        Barack Obama: "These guys want to be paid like rock stars when all they're doing is lip-synching capitalism." may21, 2010

        by vc2 on Tue Jan 15, 2013 at 11:52:03 AM PST

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    •  Other countries had strong gun restrictions before (4+ / 0-)
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      meagert, FrankRose, VClib, fuzzyguy

      any gun ban were ever enacted....and never had a constitutional right of gun ownership, thus, their populations were not nearly as heavily armed as America.  Populations are much smaller, gun ownership not nearly as valued as here....and amount of guns within their borders was astronomically lower.  

      For instance, America has 120 times the amount of guns in citizen hands as Australia has at the time of their gun ban and buy back programs.

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