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  •  Okay ... (2+ / 0-)
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    Lujane, aliasalias

    You have to know that I really appreciate your blogging / posts, calling to my attention things that I don't otherwise see, etc ... Meaningful praise meant -- I value your work for many reasons.

    But, please ... this is two diaries in a row where the title gives a misleading impression that has impact.

    Dealing with Black Carbon is absolutely NOT "a fast solution to the worst effects of Climate Change". Instead, what it is a "low-cost and quick impact action to reduce Climate Change impacts" that helps buy some time as we implement a rash of other measures.

    potential to slow warming by cutting black carbon
    "Potential to slow warming" is NOT "solution".

    You must know that a very high percentage of people never get past the title and that many of the people who do only remember the title in terms of conclusion.  This title misrepresents.

    Blogging regularly at Get Energy Smart NOW! for a sustainable energy future.

    by A Siegel on Tue Jan 15, 2013 at 05:39:18 PM PST

    •  UNEP Report (3+ / 0-)

      Removing black carbon, tropospheric ozone, and methane as a precursor to tropospheric ozone can halve the expected temperature increases by 2050, according to the UNEP report on short term climate forcers.  This newer report says that black carbon is actually the second most powerful climate change agent after CO2 with double the impact previous IPCC reports have indicated.  At least from my cursory reading of the literature.

      Solution (according to me):  zero emissions across the board, ecological design to remove existing climate change agents from the air, learning to live within our solar incomes.

      Solar is civil defense. Video of my small scale solar experiments at solarray.

      by gmoke on Tue Jan 15, 2013 at 09:45:40 PM PST

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      •  If we wish ... (0+ / 0-)

        "Key part of the solution ..."  / "Fast-acting major part of solution ..."

        Actually, "solution" likely means striving for carbon-negative society to help accelerate planet below 325 or so. (Interesting issue re 350 is that it doesn't help address acidification of the oceans, I believe ...)

        Blogging regularly at Get Energy Smart NOW! for a sustainable energy future.

        by A Siegel on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 03:08:39 AM PST

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        •  Ocean Acidification (3+ / 0-)
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          That's something we don't hear talked about all that much.  Dr Tom Goreau who is working on a book on "geotherapy" has some ideas but we haven't talked about them in any depth.  Maybe after the Allan Savory event at Tufts on January 25 we'll get that chance.

          Solar is civil defense. Video of my small scale solar experiments at solarray.

          by gmoke on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 09:49:48 AM PST

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    •  disagree and why..... (0+ / 0-)

      The worst effects of climate change will not happen if there is a rapid reduction of short living greenhouse gases and we continue to implement the long term solution of reducing the long living C02.

      We need both a short term and long term solution.  Without an immediate cooling impact the long term solution becomes moot.  There isn't time

      Macca's Meatless Monday

      by VL Baker on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 03:33:33 AM PST

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