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  •  no it won't... (0+ / 0-)

    it's a pipe dream...

    •  I don't agree but if you want to tell us (7+ / 0-)

      what measures you think that New York and this country should take to address the gun violence problem, I am willing to listen.

      So what would be your alternative to dealing with gun violence?   And if you say, "arm more people", I will have to conclude that you aren't serious.

      Washington and Colorado said that you've got to legalize it. Hope the DOJ respects that.

      by pistolSO on Tue Jan 15, 2013 at 04:44:30 PM PST

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      •  remove the guns from the criminals.... (0+ / 0-)

        before you start harassing law abiding citizens trying to protect themselves....nothing they have done removes the guns from criminals...absolutely nothing, all they've done is targeted people who were abiding by the law in the first's political theater meant to appease the gun grabbers....

      •  Mandatory sentences for people who use guns in (0+ / 0-)

        a crime.  Mandatory unbelievably stiff sentences.  You shoot someone.....30 years.  You kill someone with a  You pistol whip someone....30 years.   They die  Get caught with a gun and you are a felon....30 years.  

         Get the point....make it about the criminal.

         Go after the criminal....not the law abiding gun owner.  

        These laws will do nothing to stop the criminal who commits crimes.  Criminals will drive to Jersey to buy ammo.  Criminals will never register their guns...because most likely they already bought them illegally in the first place...of the streets.  Criminals will not get licenses, criminals will not do background checks but rather pay someone to buy it for them.  If they get caught they will do their time, get out and find another illegal gun on the streets for a few hundred dollars.....etc. etc. etc.

        These laws only hinder the law abiding gun owner who will be forced to give up guns they already own legally, to carry around 7 bullets, pay money to register guns and all because of the criminals who have to do none of it.

        •  It's time the 'law abiding gun owners' (1+ / 0-)
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          started to put pressure on the criminals.  

          Instead of selfishly being so concerned someone is going to take away their guns for hunting.

          Lock guns up securely.  Store ammo securely.  Don't allow their guns to be stolen.  Don't sell at strip mall parking lots from car trunks (personally witnessed).

          General society has to make careless deeds regarding guns an anathema.  They are not toys.  There needs to be stricter gun safety and handling classes for youth.  

          What is the NRA doing about this?  And when they do give classes is seems like they are delivered with a douse of their version of the Second Amendment.  

          I do wish the leg & Cuomo had done more in this legislation with education.

          •  Again you are putting blame on the law abiding (0+ / 0-)

            citizen.  Do you think a criminal needs a law abiding citizen to get a gun??  Don't you think they have their own?  DOn't you think they have always had their own?  Do you have any idea how many non serialed, stolen guns are out there over the years??   Millions and millions.   They don't have to get Joe Innocent Gun Owner's gun to have one.  And guess what, after all of these laws are passed to hinder Joe's rights.....those gun will still be out there and still being used by criminals.  These laws won't even get one of them off the street....not one! Because the criminals won't be turning them in or registering them or doing anything with them....except more crime.

            Don't you understand that the guns you witnessed being sold from the back of a truck in the mall....was more than likely a felon or a criminal and not a law abiding gun owner?

            It is really sad indeed that absolute no focus or even blame is put on the criminals in this entire equation.....but rather in the law abiding gun owners who in the very vast majority of the cases......own their guns, keep their guns and never, ever commit a crime with them.

            It is the criminals committing the crimes not the regular gun owner.

        •  Did you even read the details? (1+ / 0-)
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          all penalties for gun crimes were strengthened.

          "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself."........ "The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little." (yeah, same guy.)

          by sidnora on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 06:21:37 AM PST

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