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  •  Off base (7+ / 0-)

    You may be right that severely gerrymandered seats breed extremist Representatives who would be poor candidates for statewide races, e.g. Senate or Governor.  But so what?  The extremists get into the House of Representatives and do a lot of damage there, and the fact they may never move up to Senator is far, far from "killing" their party.  We need to have an honest shot at winning the House because the nation's pursestrings are there.

    "The extinction of the human race will come from its inability to EMOTIONALLY comprehend the exponential function." -- Edward Teller

    by lgmcp on Tue Jan 22, 2013 at 03:55:22 PM PST

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    •  Worse, they're doing damage in state leges (6+ / 0-)

      Our state lege has a veto-proof Republican majority in both houses. And Democrats got MORE votes statewide for the House in November. This is why we've had almost four dozen hearings on abortion, including one where a fetus "testified," but not a single one on our education funding, which our state supreme court has declared unconstitutional several times in the last 15 years.

      Jon Husted is a dick.

      by anastasia p on Tue Jan 22, 2013 at 09:02:33 PM PST

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      •  It's even worse in North Carolina (0+ / 0-)

        since the governor can't veto redistricting, we got royally screwed, and since there's no initiative process, we're looking at a permanent Republican majority.  And when I say permanent I mean it.  Democrats will always be concentrated enough in the state that Republicans can make the median seat in each chamber several points more conservative than the state and Republicans will get a redraw every 10 years to fix for changes.  I don't see any scenario where Democrats will retake the legislature in my lifetime barring some unforeseen massive realignment in the state, though our best hope is to take the state supreme court and strike down their maps.  We almost certainly won't win the legislature this decade as even in a 2006 style anti-Republican wave it would be tough.

        NC-06/NC-04; -9.12, -8.62; Yellow Dog Democrat

        by sawolf on Tue Jan 22, 2013 at 09:39:14 PM PST

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        •  Permanent is a long time (1+ / 0-)
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          Attitudes in NC are shifting and the people moving to the state tend to be more liberal.  One thing that Republicans did was to make a concerted effort to take back the state houses (NC especially) for the purposes of redistricting.  Effort matters.  Before a week or so ago, I did not know who my state reps were, and have already forgotten one!  While I was not active or even paying attention to those races, I was fairly involved in the Presidential election.  A stronger organization, and more information will help a lot.  A worry is that the overall improving economy will be something that Republicans in the state house will take credit for.  Dems got a lot of blame for the high unemployment rate.

        •  North Carolina was just awful all around (1+ / 0-)
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          Legislative Democrats took veto power away, fearing a Republican governor in 2008 who would veto a Dem gerrymander.  In a surprise, Gov. Perdue (D) held on in 2008.  Yet the GOP took back the state legislature in 2010 and drew their own gerrymander that Perdue was helpless to oppose.  And this had brutal ramifications for congressional races as well, costing us three instantly, probably a fourth in the next decade, as well as shoring up a 2010 GOP gain that probably would have swung back our way.

          It's going to take an incredible Dem wave to break their gerrymander.  I'm not sure it's even possible until changing demographics 20 years from now makes North Carolina a very different state.

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