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  •  No way (0+ / 0-)

    I seriously doubt the election is going to hinge on a disgruntled former employee.  If climate politics were relevant in the VA Gov race, Cooch would not even be running.

    There is truth on all sides. The question is how much.

    by slothlax on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 03:59:59 AM PST

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    •  Disgruntled former employee ???? (3+ / 0-)

      Take a look at the material.  This isn't about "Michael Mann".

      Point is to link Cooch to the disruption at UVA, which many Virginians would actually care about.

      RE "climate", honestly, the issue has not (not just imo) been raised by VA D politicians in any serious way. There will be a strong contrast between Terry and Ken in this arena -- if Terry's team chooses to play it.  Will "anti-science" get attention, because that is what Ken is.

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      by A Siegel on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 04:17:04 AM PST

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      •  If you really think that's a winning issue... (1+ / 0-)
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        I have a bridge to sell you.

        Really?  A climate change scientist versus an Attorney General?  You really think that's the kind of issue that a carpetbagger can run on and win in a state like Virgina?  It will be tough to move voters in NoVa on that issue, forget the rest of the state.

        There is truth on all sides. The question is how much.

        by slothlax on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 05:02:25 AM PST

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        •  Again ... (5+ / 0-)

          this isn't "Michael Mann vs Cuccinelli" -- and that sort of framing would / does make this not useful.

          It is:

          * Cuccinelli placed his anti-science ideology above the interests of Virginians, including expending significant resources (potentially $millions) on a witch-hunt that was against academic independence (which lowered Virginia's strong reputation re support for state schools) and which was based on anti-science ideology with no basis in legal code -- that money could have been used to pursue real criminals, instead the "Attorney General" wasted time and money on anti-science ideology

          * Science denial contributed to the removal of the UVA President, the leadership crisis at the University, and the undermining of UVA's/Virginia's reputation

          And, well, have to say that it is hard to see you as a "support Democratic candidates" when using term like "Carpet Bagger".  Just how long has Terry McAuliffe been in Virginia? Over 20 years.   Warner is from Indiana and Kaine from Minnesota.  Does that make Virginia's two Democratic Senators "carpet baggers"?  What leading Virginian Republicans merit "Carpet Bagger" if we count this sort of 'born out of state and moved to VA'?  Ken Cuccinelli, NJ; George Allen, CA; Bob McDonnell, PA. Hmmm ... Are you seeking to undermine the (almost certain) Democratic Party nominee to be the next Governor of Virginia or what?

          The way that I phrase this issue:

          A Modern Day Virginian:  Terry McAuliffe is a Virginian -- a VA drivers' license carrying and VA registered voter for decades. America is defined by social, economic, and geographic mobility. Yes, Terry McAuliffe wasn't born in Virginia.  Neither, by the way, was New Jersey-born Cuccinelli.

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          by A Siegel on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 06:43:27 AM PST

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        •  Carpetbagger? (2+ / 0-)
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          How long does someone need to live in a state to be a legitimate candidate?

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          by JamieG from Md on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 07:44:15 AM PST

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    •  that's not the issue (6+ / 0-)

      what Cuccinelli did by going after Mann totally pissed off UVA, and that carries serious weight across a large chunk of the state.

      "We didn't set out to save the world; we set out to wonder how other people are doing and to reflect on how our actions affect other people's hearts." - Pema Chodron

      by teacherken on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 04:21:53 AM PST

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      •  Different angle / issue ... (0+ / 0-)

        It is quite possible (look at material that I provided) that the entire leadership crisis was sparked by a fossil fuel/global warming denier imperative/desire to preempt a tenure-track offer to Mann.

        Highly related to but not the Cuccinelli abuse of Attorney General resources to pursue an inquisition against Mann via the court room.

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        by A Siegel on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 06:45:09 AM PST

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