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  •  just a really stupid comment (2+ / 0-)
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    kalmoth, sviscusi

    on your part, I don't have cable, I don't watch tv, I read things.  Like articles on the Krugman/Stewart arguments.   And clearly, you didn't address what I said, at all, not on facts, not on my inferences.  You just made a smart ass comment that betrayed your need to do more reading, more thinking, and more analysis before you criticize me.

    Mostly, you'll notice I didn't say Stewart (who doesn't spell his name "John" by the way) was right on the law or monetary theory, I pointed out he didn't know either.   I made one claim about what he does understand.  Try addressing that if you think you know so much about the subject.

    •  Yes by all means (2+ / 0-)
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      ek hornbeck, Calgacus

      check my spelling.

      Here is a thought maybe "Jon" doesn't understand it because the main objective by the ruling class has been to quash even the thought that there is a simple way out. Or possibly he was looking for a laugh because you know that is his job and all.

      There are no sacred cows.

      by LaEscapee on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 11:23:00 AM PST

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      •  and maybe (1+ / 0-)
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        kalmoth

        because the idea hasn't yet gained sufficient acceptance to pass the laugh test is the reason Stewart played it for laughs.  Gandhi, an incredibly effective activist, had something to say about the process that included laughter.

        Ideas win not just because they are right, but when the time is right.   They win because the groundwork is laid.  The right idea at the wrong time just dies.

        •  I agree (2+ / 0-)
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          ek hornbeck, Calgacus
          Ideas win not just because they are right, but when the time is right.   They win because the groundwork is laid.  The right idea at the wrong time just dies.
          Would you agree that just a little help from "our elected leaders" in laying that "groundwork" might affect the debate? Instead what we get is the ssdd telling "the people" they just don't understand. Very pragmatic/bi-partisan of them wouldn't you agree. No thinking outside the box for this crew, we wouldn't want to upset the real base.

          There are no sacred cows.

          by LaEscapee on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 11:51:33 AM PST

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          •  I would agree (1+ / 0-)
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            kalmoth

            that a long drawn out court battle, especially with this Supreme Court, over the law, would create uncertainty, economic downturn into the medium term, and would keep alive the debt ceiling battle longer than just demanding that Congress pass a clean bill, especially since we appear to have a window for just such a passage.

            The downturn in the economy at the last debt ceiling debacle was real.   So,  this is an idea that needs to filter out from the academics and into the popular consciousness, and needs someone who isn't Obama to be the proponent.  He may not be everything I want in a President, but I am more than aware of the racist crazy that floats around his every move.   He isn't going to be able to be the protagonist for this.    If we want to rewrite our entire monetary underpinings, we need someone else.

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