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  •  I too have grave concern over this (4+ / 0-)
    provisions designed to keep guns out of the hands of people who are dangerously mentally ill,
    It may sound good in theory. We should keep guns out of the hands of people that are dangerous. But what exactly is the mechanism to get this done? What is "dangerously mentally ill"? Everyone who has had treatment for depression? Everyone that has shown symptoms of BPD? Everyone who has been diagnosed with an autism spectrum quotient over a certain level? Will there be a national database that all physicians are required to update with their patient data?

    I'm more than leery. Mental illness is not necessarily a permanent condition. Yet do we permanently mark all who have sought treatment as "dangerous". A big D on their permanent records?

    •  Listing ALL the mentally ill is (0+ / 0-)

      the wrong way around.
      Test people who are in the process of buying guns and if they show up as mentally ill, 1) prevent them from buying that gun, and 2) list them for future background checks.
      That way it only effects those that want guns, not broadband, everyone that might need mental health care.

      If I ran this circus, things would be DIFFERENT!

      by CwV on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 12:45:08 PM PST

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      •  Test how? (0+ / 0-)

        And who does the test, and who pays for it?

        I'm all for fewer guns. I have no doubt that simple background checks that are done (and sometimes not done) can be improved upon.  I'm just unsure how a mechanism to keep guns away from the "dangerously mentally ill" can actually work.  ATF psych evaluations performed on the spot?

      •  asdf (0+ / 0-)

        what does "if they show up as mentally ill" mean? Show up where? Who is creating this "mentally ill" database?

        •  I'm not sure how it would be done, (1+ / 0-)
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          some kind of psych evaluation has to be possible.
          If the ATF or FBI already has such a DB, how do they get their data?
          HIPPA is supposed to protect the privacy of medical records (I say supposedly because the Bushies blew a hole in it for insurance companies) so collating a list of everyone that receives treatment for psych issues would be very problematic and as noted elsewhere in this string, would discourage many people who need help from seeking it.
          But if you want to buy a weapon, you should be willing to prove that you are fit to own it.

          If I ran this circus, things would be DIFFERENT!

          by CwV on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 01:37:55 PM PST

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