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  •  Possibly you aren't getting it (1+ / 0-)
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    Roughly 5% of US citizens are veterans. Roughly 10% of the labor force (age 18 to 65) are veterans.

    Wal Mart has just committed that roughly 4% of their hires over the next 5 years would be veterans. Assuming the proportion of people they hire under the age of 18 is relatively small (it is), this is less than half of what you would expect them to hire if they were picking names out of a hat.

    So you tell me: should we all bow down in thanks to Wal Mart, for committing to hire half as many veterans as they would by accident anyway, at substandard wages, and making sure that the government pays for their healt care by keeping them all well below the poverty line?

    Nothing but the best for our boys in uniform!

    •  For sure (0+ / 0-)

      I bet those greedy slave drivers at Walmart will even require the vets have to work if the get a job there.....bastards

      The care of human life and happiness, and not their destruction, is the first and only legitimate object of good government. - Thomas Jefferson

      by ctexrep on Fri Jan 18, 2013 at 05:33:29 AM PST

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    •  I'll check your stats but (0+ / 0-)

      "lets just not do anything" is so much better? They have a plan, however imperfect, to assist veterans with employment. Give 'em a break.

      •  To repeat... (0+ / 0-)

        ..."let's just not do anything" would result in them hiring roughly twice as many veterans as they have committed to hiring over the next five years.

        •  no it wouldn't (0+ / 0-)

          your stats (which I still haven't verified) indicate possibilities like likely outcomes. They as likely to hire X number of vets according to a pool. But making it a point to hire them, rather than hiring the typical ratio in the population , means they will (or should) hire more than they would otherwise. Stats and numbers and stuff. So yeah give them some props.

          •  Walmart didn't say they'd do that (0+ / 0-)

            They said they would hire x number of veterans over the next 5 years. They didn't say they would do anything specific in order to meet this goal.

            They can accomplish this goal by asking each person that they hire whether they are a veteran, and then checking off the box. They are more or less guaranteed to meet this goal unless they discriminate against veterans in a huge way.

            Basically, what you're saying is, 'because they said that they would do this thing, we must assume that they are going to do MUCH MORE than what they said they'd do'. When in reality, Occam's Razor says that Walmart made this announcement because they knew it would take no effort and would make them look good to people like you.

            By the way, do feel free to check my numbers. It's certainly possible I messed up somewhere. But I'm pretty sure I didn't, because this is absolutely typical of Walmart.

            •  nah (0+ / 0-)

              They said They said they would hire 100,000 veterans over the next 5 years. Who else is doing that? ... snooze.

            •  The faulty logic part (0+ / 0-)

              may not be in the numbers you provide. For one the vet numbers indicate 17-70) and I'd say those apply for jobs at walmart or anywhere else come from a much narrower age group. But a larger stats issue is that just because veterans (or any other population) make up X % of the workforce and walmart hires x amount of people there is no guarantee that  veterans will apply to walmart in direct proportion to their representation in the population. Indeed that would be quite a rarity. Instead walmart is trying to get more of that demo to apply at walmart than otherwise would.

              Now unless we know how many vets apply to walmart or are hired by walmart there's no way to know if "they would have hired them anyway" is true. I think they are doing an exemplary thing, and I'm sure some good PR is in their mind as well, but give them a break.

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