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  •  What could go wrong without regulations? (4+ / 0-)
    In Zenica the statistics are even worse:

        In the period between 2002 and 2011, tumours have become the second leading cause of death among residents with a striking 20%. According to the report, the number of cancer patients increased from 892 persons in 2002 to 1,888 in 2010 and 1,774 in 2011. If the number of patients had increased from 1063 to 1065 from 2003 to 2004, from 2004 onwards it has increased by the hundreds each year, and especially from 2007 onwards, i.e. since the full production of steel was resumed by reactivating the old plants that had been turned off at the beginning of the war in 1992.

    In December, activists from Eco Forum Zenica organized several thousand people to march on ArcelorMittal’s steel plant and call on the company to install air filters and take concrete steps to reduce pollution.

        “We’ve been writing letters and sending appeals for four years to this company. They have the support of the authorities and can ‘buy’ three politicians, five ministers and four inspectors, but they cannot buy thousands of citizens.” – Samir Lemes, Eco Forum Zenica

    Even more challenging is the fact that Zenica does not even own air quality monitoring equipment. While their Economic Development Strategy includes its purchase in their list of goals through 2020, the city has yet to acquire them. As for December’s protests, executives at ArcelorMittal have yet to respond, though a press release on their website does state a de-dusting facility is ‘planned’ for its Zenica plant.

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    I find libertarians so exasperating.  All you need to do is look around the world or open a history book to see what happens when there is no government to regulate business.  The only way to keep capitalism in check is with the government, otherwise the corporations pollute and injure people to the point where they will even harm their own profits.

    •  No one wants 'no regulation' (0+ / 0-)

      Or, almost no one, I'm sure you can find crackpots everywhere.

      Most 'moderate' libertarians such as myself tend to think less is more and you have to weigh the benefits of regulation against the costs of endless red tape, non-competitiveness, and inefficient government interference in the market.

      A lot of the time the right answer comes out as a 'light touch' regulation instead of massive bureaucracy everywhere. If you disagree, enjoy your war on drugs and government spying. For many problems, the cure is worse than the disease.

      (-5.50,-6.67): Left Libertarian
      Leadership doesn't mean taking a straw poll and then just throwing up your hands. -Jyrinx

      by Sparhawk on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 02:59:22 PM PST

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      •  if it were up to the Libertarians... (2+ / 0-)
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        ... we would still have leaded gasoline.

        After all, the free market demand for a solution to automotive engine "knock" are vastly more important than the public's demand for clean air.

        •  Like I said (1+ / 0-)
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          Straw men abound.

          (-5.50,-6.67): Left Libertarian
          Leadership doesn't mean taking a straw poll and then just throwing up your hands. -Jyrinx

          by Sparhawk on Wed Jan 16, 2013 at 09:50:29 PM PST

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          •  You aren't most Libertarians though. Why (0+ / 0-)

            don't you see what one of the founders of Libertarianism (Mooray Rothtard) had to say about child slavery?

            "Now if a parent may own his child (within the framework of non-aggression and runaway freedom), then he may also transfer that ownership to someone else. He may give the child out for adoption, or he may sell the rights to the child in a voluntary contract. In short, we must face the fact that the purely free society will have a flourishing free market in children."

            You have watched Faux News, now lose 2d10 SAN.

            by Throw The Bums Out on Thu Jan 17, 2013 at 05:40:08 AM PST

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            •  Lol (0+ / 0-)

              You think most libertarians (today) support child slavery?

              Might as well accuse the Democrats of all being racists because of their support for slavery around the time of the Civil War.

              Also, in any case, I would be very interested in seeing the full context of that quote you posted but didn't link.

              (-5.50,-6.67): Left Libertarian
              Leadership doesn't mean taking a straw poll and then just throwing up your hands. -Jyrinx

              by Sparhawk on Thu Jan 17, 2013 at 06:19:46 AM PST

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              •  To be specific, that is from the founder (0+ / 0-)

                of anarcho-capitalism which means no government court systems, just private dispute organizations (think the Xeer system in Somalia).  If you want to see the whole thing, go here.  It is obvious that you are not an anarcho-capitalist supporter but a fair number of Libertarians are.

                You have watched Faux News, now lose 2d10 SAN.

                by Throw The Bums Out on Thu Jan 17, 2013 at 06:24:54 AM PST

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