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  •  I added up the votes in some of these states (5+ / 0-)

    I included our most cited example too, Illinois

    Compared to the statewide vote total in these states, the actual balance of the House delegation worked out roughly like this:

    PA - R+4
    OH - R+4
    MI- R+2
    NC - R+3
    VA - R+2
    IL - D+2

    That is R+13, which is almost enough to flip the House

    There is truth on all sides. The question is how much.

    by slothlax on Thu Jan 17, 2013 at 01:20:05 PM PST

    •  To be fair (7+ / 0-)

      We kicked the GOP's ass in redistricting in Illinois.  We redistricted two GOP congresscritters - the egregious Joe Walsh and the incompetent Judy Biggert - right out of office.

      The Dems held the legislature and governorship.

      That said, I would rather we had a system like Iowa or California that made it more difficult to gerrymander.  But if the system is as it is, we need to play the game too.  It does feel anti-democratic though and I don't really like it.

      “If the misery of the poor be caused not by the laws of nature, but by our institutions, great is our sin.” Charles Darwin

      by ivorybill on Thu Jan 17, 2013 at 02:00:08 PM PST

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      •  Gerrymandering is wrong, whichever party (9+ / 0-)

        it benefits.  (And the evidence is clear that in general it benefits the GOP more.)

        The influence of the [executive] has increased, is increasing, and ought to be diminished.

        by lysias on Thu Jan 17, 2013 at 02:15:07 PM PST

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        •  I agree (2+ / 0-)
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          Gerrymandering was always wrong.  But usually I think it kind of balanced out, although I could be wrong since I've never seen evidence either way.  The difference this time is the Republicans won a wave election in a redistricting year, so they were able to use their artificially inflated strength from the wave to draw the maps and bake in that artificial strength.  By the end of the decade I think a lot of the "safe" seats will be blue and, even if they still can draw the maps, there won't be as many "safe" places for them to hide.

          There is truth on all sides. The question is how much.

          by slothlax on Thu Jan 17, 2013 at 03:24:30 PM PST

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