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  •  No, they have their bona fides. Both are my age... (13+ / 0-)

    ....and older. All of us are 60+ and I've known them for more than 15 years.  The thing is they are nice, good guys in many ways.  But they were Bushies in the day and when Obama beat the "war hero" McCain, they seemed to snap in a way. One guys is retiring next month. The other guy has to work until he drops dead, because his wife has MS and though he could have dumped her like I have seen others do (Mr Gingrich....) he remains utterly devoted to her care and well-being.  Our health care system is something he should be interested in reforming, but buys into the Obamacare-is-taxes/tyranny, etc.

    Like I said, not exactly open to comparative reailty...

    "Wealthy the Spirit which knows its own flight. Stealthy the Hunter who slays his own fright. Blessed is the Traveler who journeys the length of the Light."

    by CanisMaximus on Sun Jan 20, 2013 at 05:40:32 PM PST

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    •  Good for the guy (8+ / 0-)

      sticking with his wife...

      I said to check because when someone claims to be a Vietnam vet, and spouts this nonsense, you will often find when you ask probing questions that they were either not in Vietnam or were in safe jobs in the rear.  

      It is extremely rare to find someone who has been in combat who goes down the "we need more guns" road, at least in my experience.

      I am a warrior for peace. And not a gentle man... Steve Mason, 1940-2005

      by Wayward Wind on Sun Jan 20, 2013 at 05:46:03 PM PST

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    •  My VN cohort is split about 50/50. (4+ / 0-)

      However do agree that it is split pretty much between the career soldiers and short-timers. Not entirely though.

      Since my roles in my units, the 173rd and the 525th, were kind of unique I also keep in touch with the younger generation as we have kind of a bond.

      If anything they are more adamant about gun rights, creeping socialism and the like than the VN folks.

      If... the machine of government... is of such a nature that it requires you to be the agent of injustice to another, then, I say, break the law. ~Henry David Thoreau, On the Duty of Civil Disobediance, 1849

      by shigeru on Sun Jan 20, 2013 at 06:08:54 PM PST

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    •  I'm seeing this as well (2+ / 0-)
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      The nonsense that comes up on my Facebook feed from retired military men...quotes on "tyrants" and "dictators"...outrage over an image of Obama holding a copy of the book The Post Modern World...

      Posts about guns, guns, guns and those who want to take them away.

      I'm a spouse of a retired military member so there's the assumption that I share in their conspiracy beliefs and disgust that Obama was reelected.   I'm still scratching my head over their hatred of "Obamacare".  The last time I checked Tricare was a government run health program.

      In person, decent people, kind to their families, posting frequent pictures of beloved grandchildren and cute pets.  But politics brings out an ugly hatred in them that I find frightening combined with their passion for weapons.

      Reason, observation, and experience; the holy trinity of science. Robert Green Ingersoll

      by offred on Sun Jan 20, 2013 at 07:59:01 PM PST

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