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  •  As a country, we are too cheap for our own good. (20+ / 0-)

    Houses and shopping centers built out of styrofoam and vinyl to a 30 to 40 year life span, bridges for a 50 year lifespan (Tappan Zee), and replacement of escalators that are 15 to 25 years old (Glenmont and NoMa stations) in the Washington, DC Metrorail are prime examples.

    Penny wise and pound foolish.

    •  profit over engineering (and experience) .. (8+ / 0-)

      Without knowledge of specifics, it's easy to imagine all the possible causes of the problem, from the original design spec. for the batts., wiring, circuitry... the manufacturing and testing of the quality of those three components once manufactured.. and finally, the adequacy of testing while replicating actual working conditions (and extremes) once the power system components are assembled and working together.

      As the complexity of our systems (in this case, an airliner) increases, the perceived need to "do it cheaper" increases pressure on all the peripheral requirements to be done more quickly (ie: less thoroughly or eliminated) - since there are so many steps involved.

      The people that have lived through enough of these processes develop a "feel" for when something isn't right - and hone their out-of-the-box thinking to repeatedly save the day, and often the *sses of those tightening the screws above. Once their value to the process is reduced, and they are eliminated, the likelihood that failure is the end product becomes almost inevitable.

      Not that I have any pent up hostility from working in our corporate world., where did I leave my torches and villagers?

      by FrankSpoke on Fri Jan 18, 2013 at 11:10:09 AM PST

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      •  Another issue in airliners/aerospace (3+ / 0-)
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        Clean-sheet (or nearly so) designs are so rare that engineers can go through a full career without having worked on one.  

        Getting to work on more than one must be quite rare.  The 707/727/737/757 fuselage width has been around over 50 years.

        Yes, I know that commonality between a 707 and a 737-800 is quite small, but it has been evolutionarychange--not clean-sheet.

      •  Profit over all. (3+ / 0-)
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        The new mantra of Wall Street backed businesses.

        "We the People of the United States...." -U.S. Constitution

        by elwior on Fri Jan 18, 2013 at 01:15:37 PM PST

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        •  the *establishment's* mantra .. (2+ / 0-)
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          There seems to be no other directive so universally revered by any policy maker, big or small - on or off Wall Street.

          "Well, of course, we couldn't possibly restrict the ability of X to be profitable."

          While they slowly poison, or directly kill, various groups of citizens locally or abroad. Oh well.. the cost of doing business. You are Pro-Business.. aren't you?

          Being short-sighted seems a pre-requisite to every investment endeavor.

          Sometimes I'm glad I don't have kids to inherit the mess this is creating.

, where did I leave my torches and villagers?

          by FrankSpoke on Fri Jan 18, 2013 at 02:48:45 PM PST

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    •  And as internet user (1+ / 0-)
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      its easy to armchair engineer airplanes.

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