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  •  Boeing had outsourced some parts to other (3+ / 0-)
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    companies that were either a Boeing facility (Spirit in Kansas) or somewhat local.  Once they bought MD and installed several of the key VP's into Boeing the outsource bug hit.  That is what put MD into trouble for many years...  Now that the last of them are leaving the insource bug is becoming vogue.

    "Death is the winner in any war." - Nightwish/Imaginareum/Song of myself.

    by doingbusinessas on Fri Jan 18, 2013 at 09:20:59 AM PST

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    •  Chicago based Boeing Company (0+ / 0-)

      The Boeing Company run by MD folks who didn't want to move to Seattle but wanted to get away from St. Louis for the Gold Coast on Lake Michigan seem to have lost control of the design and manufacturing skills.

      Spirit company bought Boeing's facilities, and I believe the management is ex-Boeing also. So Boeing could shed their labor liabilities. As for Asia there was a quote by some Mitsubichi Co. person saying that after designing the 787 wing they had the know-how to enter the composite market.

      Same with the company that designed the 737, 757, 767 winglet retrofit kits. Ex-Boeing, or maybe another attempt to shed labor? Or reward insiders?

      •  It's actually just big company (5+ / 0-)
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        management-think run amok.

        Boeing used to be run and managed by people that had cut their teeth flying airplanes and maintaining airplanes.  Now it is run and managed by "interchangeable CEO's" that know about running big corporations but nothing about the unique business of building airplanes that fly.

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        by FlamingoGrrl on Fri Jan 18, 2013 at 10:31:25 AM PST

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        •  Well it all looked good on the PowerPoint (3+ / 0-)
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          that the MBA's presented.  Yep.

          Most likely those MBA's are long gone to greener pastures, looking to fleece another industry.

          Democratic Leaders must be very clear they stand with the working class of our country. Democrats must hold the line in demanding that deficit reduction is done fairly -- not on the backs of the elderly, the sick, children and the poor.

          by Betty Pinson on Fri Jan 18, 2013 at 01:56:55 PM PST

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    •  the Boeing McDonnel merger (0+ / 0-)

      Is known internally as 'when Douglas took over' ; redneck management. Then came Mulally, not sure of he helped or not, but anyway he bailed for Ford before it started coming down. Anyone from Being to comment on this? The engineers union did a white paper in 2001 or so that predicted what would happen if the announced outsourcing plan was followed, and it pretty much did. Now they are near a strike over Boeing wanting to end pensions and go to 401ks for new hires. Personally I think I'll stick to automobiles for a while.

      •  They are about || close to striking. (0+ / 0-)

        SPEEA rejected the latest "offer" the Boeing handed them.

        A good number of the engineers are very upset about what is going on (the outsourcing coming home to roost), not being used to design and engineer the 787, etc.  

        "Death is the winner in any war." - Nightwish/Imaginareum/Song of myself.

        by doingbusinessas on Fri Jan 18, 2013 at 09:40:12 PM PST

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