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  •  You can forget Manchin and Casey (6+ / 0-)

    on the big stuff.  Manchin period.  I guess there is an outside chance that Casey would go along, given that he was just relected for 6 years.  But, as a PA resident, I can tell you,...if he supports gun control beyond background checks, he WILL be defeated in 2018.  Pennsylvanians have long memories, and gun control is a real hot button issue in this blue state.

    I know a lot of "rank and file" Dems, the Clinton Dems.  They are scared to death of "gun control".

    I don't think there is a snowball's chance in hell of passing anything but the background check stuff,...and even that might not make it through the House unless it is accompanied by cuts to SS and other entitlements.  

    •  Might be able to get Manchin on (1+ / 0-)
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      background checks and Mental health stuff. He's pretty safe as far as red state Dems go. Safer than most. Nobody questions his gun fealty.

      Casey...we can get him on mental heatlh and background checks that's correct. But he wont go with a ban even though he's safe too. He's the senior Democratic statesman in the state and he's thinking about winning back the state house for Dems.

      In fact, I'm willing to bet you that Casey becomes the key vote here on if ANYTHING gets passed. I'm sure McConnell will not filibuster and actually wants a vote.

      •  See here (0+ / 0-)

        “I’m not advocating banning anything,” Manchin said on Talkline two days later. “I’m advocating a conversation on everything.”

        “He stated that he wanted to have a conversation, but he stated it in the context of ‘I only need three rounds in my gun,’” said Keith Morgan, President of the WVCDL. “Ridiculous. Yeah he wants to have a conversation about banning guns is what he wants to have.”

        Its very possible Manchin could lose. For sure Capito is a shoe in for Rockefellers old seat now because nobody will want to give the dems an extra seat with gun control on the table.

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