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  •  Boehner is rational imo (14+ / 0-)

    But he does not head a rational caucus.

    Boehner's ability to ignore the Hastert Rule any time he wishes is the issue I think.

    When the budget, sequester and government shutdown issues come front and center, the ability to ignore the Hastert Rule will be the central issue imo.

    •  boehner has nothing to lose (6+ / 0-)

      He already has his majority leader job.  He didn't lose it despite violating the dumb shit hastert rule (named after a dumb shit no less).  Just get it done already.  sick of this fucking bullshit.

      "The real wealth of a nation consists of the contributions of its people and nature." -- Rianne Eisler

      by noofsh on Sun Jan 20, 2013 at 08:36:44 AM PST

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    •  But he also knows that if his caucus (8+ / 0-)

      wants to put the economy at risk, all Boehner has to do is to bring a bill raising the debt limit to the floor. There will be enough on both sides of the aisle to pass it.

      Methinks that Boehner, being rational, will do the right thing at the end. Methinks that the President knows this. This is pretty much all he needs to know - he doesn't need to know how the Republicans as a group think - just that not all of them are irresponsible.

      From a long-term political strategy perspective, forcing the responsible Republicans to do the right thing will only point out, in very stark contrast, who the irresponsible ones are.

      Redistricting may have put some irresponsible people in their seats - calling them out should make them vulnerable in the mid-terms.

      The foolish and the dead alone never change their opinions. James Russell Lowell

      by Serendipity on Sun Jan 20, 2013 at 08:38:43 AM PST

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      •  Considering the noises the 'baggers make (2+ / 0-)
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        I'm unsure if they'll be gone anytime soon, especially after gerrymandering their districts.

        The Koch whack-jobs were sent to congress the first time by idiots at the polls even after expounding on their nut-wad views.

        Now - the districts have an even higher concentration of brainwashed voters. It was nice to see Alan West go away, but can't see Bachmann et al getting evicted - especially in a non-presidential year election.

        The Aggressively Ignorant Caucus is getting aggressively ignorant again.

        by Anthony Page aka SecondComing on Sun Jan 20, 2013 at 09:46:31 AM PST

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    •  He can't simply ignore the Hastert rule, he has (2+ / 0-)

      propose something that Pelosi and the Dems will buy into.  It is a two stage proposition, ignore Hastert and secondly get Dem votes.  It will be interesting to see if he can get any Dem votes for a three month extension.

      lol, as I proof read this I realized that twice I spelled Hastert as Hasterd.

      Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a Republican. But I repeat myself. Harry Truman

      by ratcityreprobate on Sun Jan 20, 2013 at 09:34:21 AM PST

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