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  •  The whole "doping" thing has gone absurdly too far (2+ / 0-)
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    Originally, anabolic steroids were banned because they were dangerous to health, plain and simple. It expanded from there into a paranoid witch hunt against anything that people demonize as giving an "advantage". Hell, certain types of high altitude training are banned in cycling! How freaking ridiculous is that?

    Let's set the record straight. EVERY medicine is "performance enhancing". That's the whole point of medicine. A couple of pain pills is a performance enhancer because it blocks pain that would inhibit action. Knee reconstruction on torn ligaments is performance enhancing because it gets the athlete off of crutches and able to walk and run unassisted again. Armstrong's cancer treatments were performance enhancing because it prevented him from becoming dead, which is the lowest state of performance known.

    Much like ending the War on Drugs, I think it's high time to drag this whole mess out into the open and allow licensed and competent doctors to prescribe anything they feel is safe and effective. And in so doing allow the big money in sports to trickle down to the rest of us in the form of safe and effective enhancements for all of us.

    If rabid purists want to deny medical science in a fanatical pursuit of "purity" which even they can't define, let them form their own leage of Straight Edgers. maybe they can get sponsorship from the Christian Scientist church. I'm sick of anti-drug fanatics standing in the way of medical science.

    "Is there anybody listening? Is there anyone who sees what's going on? Read between the lines, criticize the words they're selling. Think for yourself, and feel the walls become sand beneath your feet." --Geoff Tate, Queensryche

    by DarthMeow504 on Fri Jan 18, 2013 at 02:02:42 PM PST

    •  The locus of bedwetting "purists" are the... (1+ / 0-)
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      If rabid purists want to deny medical science in a fanatical pursuit of "purity" which even they can't define, let them form their own leage of Straight Edgers. maybe they can get sponsorship from the Christian Scientist church. I'm sick of anti-drug fanatics standing in the way of medical science.
      ...major league baseball writers, who as a group reflect cultural and societal norms as they were in the 1940's.

      If it were up to some of these idiots, baseball would still not be integrated.

      Let me put it more bluntly, these are some of the very dumbest mofo's on the planet. Calling any of these knuckle draggers "writers" is a complement 95% of them don't deserve.

      The only reason they get upset is because they view the historical statistics of baseball as something akin to the Bible, the Torah, the Koran and the Rosetta Stone all rolled into one.

      Any perceived assault on the holy statistics is met with the heat of a thousand suns.

      "Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!"

      by jkay on Fri Jan 18, 2013 at 02:34:02 PM PST

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      •  So people who are against cheating ... (0+ / 0-)

        in sports must also be racists?

        Wow.

        "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the universe." -- Albert Einstein

        by Neuroptimalian on Fri Jan 18, 2013 at 07:07:43 PM PST

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        •  No (0+ / 0-)

          My comment goes way, way beyond that.

          That discussion would take hours.

          You really have to understand the culture of Baseball and pro sports in general to get where I'm coming from.

          It is an extremely authoritarian, regressive culture from coaches to management to media.

          It's elaborate stagecraft, where the white athletes are almost always given the benefit of the doubt when they get  in trouble.

          It's not as obvious as it used to be, but if you listen fairly carefully it's easy to catch the differences in how the athletes are handled in the media.

          "Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!"

          by jkay on Sat Jan 19, 2013 at 07:20:48 AM PST

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        •  Circular argument (0+ / 0-)

          Certain medical treatments are against the rules, thus using them  is cheating. They are against the rules because they're cheating, which is because they are against the rules.

          Nobody is arguing that breaking the rules isn't cheating. What we're saying is the rules are fucking stupid and need to be changed. Then the medical treatments in question would not be against the rules, thus they would not be cheating.

          "Is there anybody listening? Is there anyone who sees what's going on? Read between the lines, criticize the words they're selling. Think for yourself, and feel the walls become sand beneath your feet." --Geoff Tate, Queensryche

          by DarthMeow504 on Sun Jan 20, 2013 at 04:15:51 AM PST

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      •  I think you just lost all credibility... (0+ / 0-)

        Apparently from what you are saying here you have no problems with people cheating at all, so your perspective is kind of rendered moot in my eyes.  

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