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  •  They claim that Judaism is flawed and incomplete (2+ / 0-)
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    In other words, more proof that some of these courses are thinly disguised evangelism.

    The NRA's response to calls for responsible gun law reform: noun, verb, Second Amendment

    by Christian Dem in NC on Fri Jan 18, 2013 at 07:16:02 PM PST

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    •  I don't get your point (0+ / 0-)

      If Christians didn't think that "Judaism is flawed and incomplete", why would they have bothered adding the New Testament to the Bible?

      And Rabbinic Jews think that Second Temple Judaism is incomplete. Otherwise, they would not have bothered writing the Talmud.

      •  The question is not, "What do Christians believe". (1+ / 0-)
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        The question is, "Do these courses teach Christian faith as historical and epistemological fact?"

        To put the torture behind us is, inevitably, to put it in front of us.

        by UntimelyRippd on Fri Jan 18, 2013 at 07:26:07 PM PST

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        •  Indeed. At a high school level at least, (0+ / 0-)

          it's hard not to teach it that way unless you teach it in a comparative perspective, as Cali Scribe suggested above.

          Looking at the diary more closely, I see that the Bible is being taught  in "history and literature courses". I don't think it has a place in either.

          It only belongs in comparative religion courses, because if you teach the Bible as part of our "literary tradition", Christianity is going to get privileged over other religions, which obviously is impermissible in a public school.

      •  The Talmud is (1+ / 0-)
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        an explanation of oral history, not a new bible.  It is an intellectual exercise analyzing The Bible and oral history.  It was codified because the Temple, which was a central place for oral history and learning, was destroyed and the Jewish people dispersed.  It was eventually put to paper two hundred years after the destruction of the Temple.  They would staunchly argue that  there is only one Bible.  They do not proselytize. In fact they make it difficult to convert.
        The New Testament is not an addition to the Bible.  It is a completely new convention written hundreds of years after Jesus died. Possibly around the same time as the Talmud.
        Please do not respond.  Please look it up.

    •  I remember a B.C. comic strip (0+ / 0-)

      ... that had a menorah, with one candle after the other being snuffed out, leaving a cross behind. It offended quite a lot of Jews. Here's a link to a picture of it:

      http://en.wikipedia.org/..._(comic_strip)#Religious_aspect

      I think that was when I gave up in the newspaper comics for good. They had been getting dull for a while anyway.

      Historically, there are times when Judaism is tolerated by Christians, but pogroms tend to come around again.

      The wolfpack eats venison. The lone wolf eats mice.

      by A Citizen on Fri Jan 18, 2013 at 07:57:11 PM PST

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      •  Ah, but Nonsequitor and Doonesbury (0+ / 0-)

        make up for the rest.  

        We should not be fighting about equal pay for equal work and access to birth control in 2012. Elizabeth Warren

        by Leftleaner on Fri Jan 18, 2013 at 08:15:23 PM PST

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