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  •  So is there a designation difference (2+ / 0-)
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    A Citizen, angelajean

    for rifles that take 'clips' vs. those that don't? Or are all detachable magazine, cartridge, clip, chamber rifles single action?

    According to Merriam Webster "Assault rifle" is in the top %1 of searches in their online dictionary.

    of ASSAULT RIFLE
    : any of various automatic or semiautomatic rifles with large capacity magazines designed for military use
    I get you may have a technical quibble with this definition. As semi auto applies to many rifles that are clearly not "assault" or military style weapons. But modern usage seems to be changing.

    There seems to be obvious differences in the purposes and effects of the ammunition designs that would be significantto the discussion.

    The purpose of the firearm and amunition seems a more appropriate bases of designation than it's broadly catagorized design as semi auto. That seems to becoming an outdated manner of description. Semi auto is nothing specific.  

    •   i meant "non" detachable (0+ / 0-)
    •  a "clip" is simply (2+ / 0-)
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      Pluto, fisheye

      a bit of (usually) metal which holds a fixed number of rounds for insertion into a rifle's internal magazine.  They can have only one size (capacity) . . . that of the magazine into which they are inserted.

      The "magazine" is the entirety of the mechanism which holds the rounds in the gun and feeds them into position to be chambered.

      A "detachable magazine" is just that . . . it can be removed and loaded separate from the gun and when inserted into position performs all the same functions that an internal (fixed) magazine would perform.  Detachable magazines can be of different size and capacity (and even style, "box" or "drum" for example).

      Fake Left, Drive Right . . . not my idea of a Democrat . . .

      by Deward Hastings on Fri Jan 18, 2013 at 09:15:08 PM PST

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      •  So there are non detachable magazines (0+ / 0-)

        that operate semi automatically, correct?

        •  one wouldn't say it that way, (1+ / 0-)
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          fisheye

          becauses it doesn't really describe the function.  The magazine holds the rounds, and advances them into position for chambering.  That is completely independent of whether the chambering mechanism is full auto, semi-auto or "manual" bolt action.

          It is not the magazine which cycles the bolt or determines the action.

          The M1 Garand, for example, has a clip-loaded internal magazine and a semi-automatic action.  Almost all semi-automatic shotguns also have internal (non-detachable) magazines.

          Fake Left, Drive Right . . . not my idea of a Democrat . . .

          by Deward Hastings on Fri Jan 18, 2013 at 10:35:28 PM PST

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