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  •  The Post Office (1+ / 0-)
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    k9disc

    Does not get government funds.  So it may be a government service, but it isn't funded by the government.

    It is funded by the money it collects in exchange for its services.

    If your definition of a business is making profit, then I won't be able to debate this.

    There are such things as nonprofit businesses.

    •  ... since 1971... (0+ / 0-)

      Interesting timeframe:
      http://en.wikipedia.org/...

      Before that it was a cabinet level organization. Here's the wiki on the Postal Service Act.

      And if you want a he said she said:
      http://usgovinfo.about.com/...

      Personally, I like the old post office. The one with postal trucks and pensions for awesome guys like Mr. Gene, our postal carrier when I was a kid.

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      by k9disc on Sat Jan 19, 2013 at 05:25:42 PM PST

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      •  You are siting about.com? (0+ / 0-)

        And Wikipedia to support your argument?

        That's truly amazing.

        •  No, I'm citing the fact that the post office was (0+ / 0-)

          changed in the 70s from a government institution to some kind of quasi-government institution of the nature you cite.

          I just happened to find those sitting at the top of the list.

          They were both pretty decent breakdowns.

          Actually, the About.com cite really sounded like it was up your argument's alley.

          Feel free to prove them wrong, outside of attacking the messenger. If you do I will engage in some deeper research and either set you straight or concede to your point.

          I bet you will have to cite Cato, CEI and/or Heritage...  

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          by k9disc on Sat Jan 19, 2013 at 08:55:59 PM PST

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          •  No! I want to be clear. You did cite about.com (0+ / 0-)

            and Wikipedia in support of your arguments.  You have made some pretty solid statements here about the Postal Service and what kind of institution it is, is not, or should be.

            Like I stated in one of my earlier comments, if we disagree on the definition of a business, I won't be able to debate with you.  But I read the sites you linked to and I found them lacking in support of your argument.

            I'd like to say one last thing, not everyone with a differing opinion is an opponent.  Up until you suggested that I would need to cite right wing sites to prove you wrong, I believed we were probably on the same page but using different fonts.

            It is not my burden to prove that the sites you cite are wrong.  It is your burden to defend the sites you cite as being right

            Especially when none of them support your argument.

            •  Well why don't you prove my points wrong (0+ / 0-)

              that it was a big position in the US Government that ran from congressional pursestrings until 1971.

              And that since, it has been altered to become more akin to what you are talking about.

              You do that, and I'll be happy to go down 5-10 pages on google and do a little 'research'.

              Coincidence
              Here's historical rates, and look at that giant bump in the 70s and beyond, post- Postal Reorganization act:
              http://about.usps.com/...

              Looks to me like it became a business alright, depending on what kind of business you're talking about. ;-)

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              by k9disc on Sat Jan 19, 2013 at 10:07:48 PM PST

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