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  •  Existence of a "Commons" (13+ / 0-)

    Dilutes the value of privately-held property.

    "I'll believe that corporations are people when I see Rick Perry execute one."

    by bink on Sat Jan 19, 2013 at 04:33:37 AM PST

    •  I find this interesting (12+ / 0-)

      because every real estate listing has parks, other amenities, and schools (all "commons," I believe) prominently noted.  They are selling points until after the sale, I guess.  

      -7.62, -7.28 "Hold fast to dreams, for if dreams die, life is a broken winged bird that cannot fly." -Langston Hughes

      by luckylizard on Sat Jan 19, 2013 at 04:41:31 AM PST

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    •  If you can share the commons with fewer people... (4+ / 0-)
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      ... then the value goes up.  Fewer people taking firewood from the forest around the village means more for those who do use it as their resource.  In modern terms, if you can gate off the park, swimming pool, community center, etc. you have kept the "commons" for yourself and your exclusive neighbors.  These private/public spaces are intended to share, but only with the "right" people.  After all, they don't want anything to wash off in the pool, like skin color or something.  It might be catching.

      Liberalism is trust of the people tempered by prudence. Conservatism is distrust of the people tempered by fear. ~William E. Gladstone, 1866

      by Jim Tietz on Sat Jan 19, 2013 at 06:49:10 AM PST

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      •  Yes, but these "exclusive" commons (2+ / 0-)
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        are sustained from the public purse.  In this particular instance, although the original plan was to have a private sewer and water system, they actually extended the public main and hooked into the public sewer, the garbage truck comes into the private drive and so does the U.S. mail.
        Perhaps when the pavement has to be replaced, the homeowners will spring for that. In other parts of the country, when subdivisions aren't built to public standards and rely on private utility services, the larger community provides no services, until wells get polluted and septic systems fail and then something has to be done in the name of public health. It's very wasteful of natural resources to demand that houses be built on lots that are large enough so the septic fields can be moved around. Some people think large lots preserve the forest canopy, but when new leach fields have to be installed, everything gets cleared and is kept clear, lest roots get into the lines.

        We organize governments to deliver services and prevent abuse.

        by hannah on Sat Jan 19, 2013 at 07:15:15 AM PST

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        •  Lots of degrees of exclusivity (0+ / 0-)

          Sounds like your situation is very complex -- a perfect medium in which the lawyers can perform their thievery on behalf of their grasping clients.

          Good luck with your fight!

          Liberalism is trust of the people tempered by prudence. Conservatism is distrust of the people tempered by fear. ~William E. Gladstone, 1866

          by Jim Tietz on Sat Jan 19, 2013 at 10:58:13 AM PST

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          •  I said at the beginning that sharers (2+ / 0-)
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            offend owners. I did the research before hand and intended to contest the prevailing attitude.
            Also, there's the previous owner for whom an injustice needs to be avenged. She was cheated out of her dream of a little house on the marsh.

            We organize governments to deliver services and prevent abuse.

            by hannah on Sat Jan 19, 2013 at 11:12:57 AM PST

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