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    as a significant answer to an issue that has been debated, with increasing difficulty, for centuries. Even the founders had disagreements - the 2A came about because Virginia's ratification debates especially found the proposed Constitution insufficient to protect states rights to be able to protect themselves.

    We also know, partly because the amendment process was put in it, that the founders did not expect it to be completely relevant indefinitely.

    Coming from a family that is really big on words, the meaning of regulated in that sentence is quite clear. I still don't see that it covers individual rights. Nor did 4 of the 9 Justices on a court that also handed down the 2000 Bush decision and CU just a few years ago.

    I have been an owner of rifles, shotguns, an over and under, revolvers, and semiautomatic handguns; for hunting, safety killing of grizzlies, moose and halibut, target shooting and self defense. One of my cousins was killed at 16 by a grocery store robber. Uncle Bud had been robbed many times, Doug was bringing the hand gun to the store safe near the front at closing. I've been an RN since '77, 16 years in critical care. I almost killed both kids and myself in 12/93, with the stainless steel pistols due to SAD. They were in the Columbine school district, my son was a senior, varsity wrestler for 3 years, 3 of the kids killed had both of their names. I was a field supervisor in that area  for a home care agency. One of my nurses cared for a lot of those kids. Both kids and I were impacted extensively - every school shooting brings back the horror.

     Of the pictures covering the Aurora shooting, the best one for me was of Obama in a trauma room with one of the victims and her family. Because the nurse standing behind the equipment was one I had worked with there. Really good nurse, and she looked great. Like paramedics, firefighters and cops, health care personnel have plenty of PTSD experiences.  We also take care of the people who survive those attacks. During my 12 years in home care, I met those that were still living with the losses. And their families. We had a home care nurse here killed by a long standing patient. Because he couldn't take the pain anymore. His gun shot wounds were from WIA. I've taken care of a lot of those folks, without ever working for the VA.

    The problem is a whole lot bigger than guns and gun safety. They do play a role. Since we haven't been able to collect all the stats or do research on more specific issues, it is a role we can diminish while we develop new ones, and expand other non gun approaches that haven't been developed or implemented  any where near enough.

    I was particularly struck by the Canadian pointing out that 20 years ago they would have been smoking on the set.  35.5 years ago I noted with disbelief while a physician lit up at the nurses station - basically because he was a pulmonologist, not because of the location.

    "People, even more than things, have to be restored, renewed, revived, reclaimed and redeemed; never throw out anyone. " Audrey Hepburn "A Beautiful Woman"

    by Ginny in CO on Sun Jan 20, 2013 at 02:35:57 AM PST

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