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  •  Two quibbles and a funny story: (4+ / 0-)
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    Steven D, Chi, Cali Scribe, FG

    First off, overall I enjoyed your diary. Now the quibbles: "sordid", not "sorted". Though I suppose we could argue that the strangeness of this story is "assorted" weirdness, LOL. The other thing, and this is not to gang up on you but because it is a pet peeve of mine: "Reverend" is a modifier, not a title. It's The Reverend so and so, just as it's "The Venerable" for an Archdeacon.

    Now for the funny story, which I've told here on Daily Kos before. Years ago, Second Baptist Church in Houston outgrew its old building and set about a capital campaign to raise money to replace it. There were two brothers who were pillars of the congregation who were doctors with very, very successful practices. They offered to purchase the stained glass windows for the new building. But there's a twist: it wasn't the money from their medical practices that paid for those windows, rather the income from the chain of peep shows and adult bookstores they owned. So, it is joked, those stained glass windows were paid for a quarter at a time. True story.

    What is truth? -- Pontius Pilate

    by commonmass on Sat Jan 19, 2013 at 06:48:26 AM PST

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    •  I never edit a story before I post it! (2+ / 0-)
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      commonmass, glorificus

      Truly, never!  But, I do once I post it.  Thanks for the input.

      I do love the stained glass story!

      Have you received the chain email going around about all the typos in church bulletins?  Some of those are hysterical.  

      Failure to Publicize Acts of Hatred Only Allows Them to Fester and Metastasize.

      by BoxerDave on Sat Jan 19, 2013 at 06:56:17 AM PST

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      •  Oh, yes, I've seen many of those. (4+ / 0-)

        They are truly funny. Not to mention the things clergy say. For a number of years when I lived in Massachusetts I served a Swedish Lutheran congregation with a German-born pastor. His English (and about six other languages) was perfect. Hardly a trace of an accent. But like everyone who sometimes has to read from a text in public, he was not immune to the occasional mistake. In reading the story of Jesus being baptized, he transposed some words, and this is what came out: "Jordan baptized Jesus in the John". It was the first, and last time I heard those old Swedes laugh in church.

        The one from the chain mail type stuff that I have always loved was the sermon title posted on the church sign outside during their stewardship (fundraising) campaign: "I upped my pledge, up yours".

        What is truth? -- Pontius Pilate

        by commonmass on Sat Jan 19, 2013 at 07:03:40 AM PST

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        •  Great story! (1+ / 0-)
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          commonmass

          Yes, the "I upped my plegde" was precious.

          I also remember the one about the church fundraiser.  It went something like: bring your old clothes, your old dishes, and you can even bring your husbands.

          Failure to Publicize Acts of Hatred Only Allows Them to Fester and Metastasize.

          by BoxerDave on Sat Jan 19, 2013 at 07:20:03 AM PST

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          •  My very favorite indictment of evangelical (2+ / 0-)
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            Remediator, BoxerDave

            religion comes from the composer Virgil Thompson, who himself had a Southern Baptist background:

            For an article (never published for reasons that will become apparent) for Vanity Fair in 1917, he presented the following analysis of the Baptist Hymnal:

            36 of them are evangelical exhortations.
            28 explain the benefits of conversion
            25 anticipate or describe heaven
            13 are for children.
            6 are prayerful.
            4 are military.
            3 predict the Judgement Day.
            1 is about mother.
            1 recalls with pleasure a little brown church in the wildwood.
            91 confess erotic feelings for the person of Jesus.

            What is truth? -- Pontius Pilate

            by commonmass on Sat Jan 19, 2013 at 07:27:54 AM PST

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