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  •  Sen Reid favors flipping the burden (5+ / 0-)
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    theKgirls, wdrath, pistolSO, edrie, glorificus

    According to a FP diary from yesterday. So no, Sen Reind has not gone insane. He is looking for a way to throw out the dirty bathwater (blanket obstructionism) without throwing out the baby (avoiding 'tyranny of the majority').

    IMO adjustements and refinements are called for, not wholesafe elimination of the filibuster.

    •  I thought it was absolutely shameful that (8+ / 0-)

      Sen Byrd had to come in at 2:00 a.m. for the Healthcare vote. (I loved that he wagged his finger at all the Republicans saying "shameful").

      The Dems had to drag people out of their deathbeds to take a vote, but the obstructionists wouldn't need to send a single person for the vote? I've always believed the equation needed to be flipped -- produce your 41 votes against or our 51 votes wins...

      That said, I do still hope that Reid will allow the talking filibuster. The idea that someone can just say they don't want to proceed and now we need 60 votes to pass is an absolute outrage. Their corporate overlords can suggest they don't like the legislation and one person blocks it, no questions asked. Let these Senators stand in front of the American people and tell us, hour after hour, why they are blocking the Violence Against Women Act or why victims of Sandy don't deserve aid.

      First the thing is impossible, then improbable, then unsatisfactorily achieved, then quietly improved, until one day it is actual and uncontroversial. ... It starts off impossible and it ends up done. - Adam Gopnik

      by theKgirls on Sat Jan 19, 2013 at 09:06:20 AM PST

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      •  Very agreeable to that idea (4+ / 0-)
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        wdrath, JGibson, glorificus, Calamity Jean

        There has to be something more than one Senator throwing a sabot into the works. Which is sort of how "holds" work now if I understand correctly. And I've heard it said that removing these one-senator "holds" on nominees, whatever are more damaging than the filibuster.

        I want reform from the 111th/112th Congress' shameful history. But I do not want to totally eliminate the filibuster. Without it, the only alternative is to deny a quorum as the WI senators had to do in 2011. There should be some sort of last-ditch hope in the face of disastrous legislation.

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