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  •  Although you posit that owning a gun to protect (2+ / 0-)
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    DefendOurConstitution, coquiero

    yourself from the government is illogical why is it that so many have fallen for the ruse?

    If peace is to prevail we all have to become foes of violence.

    by spacejam on Sat Jan 19, 2013 at 10:56:13 AM PST

    •  Because they haven't given it much thought. (3+ / 0-)

      When banjos are outlawed, only outlaws will have banjos.

      by Bisbonian on Sat Jan 19, 2013 at 10:59:24 AM PST

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    •  Because "FREEDUM," actually because the gun Cult (2+ / 0-)
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      LaFeminista, historys mysteries

      (even the ones among us) have bought the NRA line and are all in to defend the NRA and the gun manufacturers so they can keep profiting from 100k people getting shot in the US every single year (sure "only" 30k plus actually die).  It is all about profits and the fact that those profits come from so much blood does not bother them.

      Then they came for me - and by that time there was nobody left to speak up.

      by DefendOurConstitution on Sat Jan 19, 2013 at 11:12:50 AM PST

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    •  Because they see the US military as an extension (4+ / 0-)

      of their machismo and the most important pillar of American Exceptionalism, which in turn is an extension of their sense of White superiority. It's very fundamental to most conservative White peoples' sense of identity.

      Occasionally you get the odd Libertarian or two who can see the conflict between fear of over-reaching govt. mixed with unbridled love of government military might, but not very often.

      If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - David Rees from "Get Your War On".

      by Oaktown Girl on Sat Jan 19, 2013 at 11:38:28 AM PST

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    •  I actually talked to a LEO last night about this.. (1+ / 0-)
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      ... his feeling is that BEFORE anyone takes possession of any firearm they should be required to be fully trained in the use of the weapon.  The test should include a written portion (understanding the local laws), and cleaning and handling portion (which he joked may actually reduce the number of gun owners through natural selection), and a firing portion (if a person cannot hit a target they will not be protecting themselves in the least).

      He felt that the test should be conducted for each firearm a person owns.  Proficiency with one handgun model does not mean proficiency with all handguns.  As an example he said that he has been called to a number of situations because the officers on the scene (many of them are ex-military) cannot figure out how to unload and disarm the firearm being taken.

      I haven't been here long enough to be considered a Kossack, does that mean that I'm just a sack?

      by Hey338Too on Sat Jan 19, 2013 at 12:25:13 PM PST

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      •  Sorry, this post isn't really appropriate... (0+ / 0-)

        ... for your comment.  I was thinking about the "self protection" side of people wanting to have guns - which this officer thought would require the testing he mentioned.

        As for using guns against "guvmint teerannee" he said anyone who thinks that an AR-15 is going to help them if the government "is out to get you" is nuts.  He said it you really want to piss off the government - try shooting at them with a semi-automatic weapon, it will only help them find you.

        I haven't been here long enough to be considered a Kossack, does that mean that I'm just a sack?

        by Hey338Too on Sat Jan 19, 2013 at 12:34:58 PM PST

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    •  Airwaves full of fear and loathing? (0+ / 0-)

      The shock jock generation?

      McCarthy's vengeance?

      How the hell should I know what is under the tin foil hats?

      "Another world is not only possible, she is on her way. On a quiet day, I can hear her breathing." Arundhati Roy

      by LaFeminista on Sat Jan 19, 2013 at 01:17:24 PM PST

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