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  •  While I don't agree this diary's particular flavor (7+ / 0-)

    I do wish todemonstrate some fairness and 'the spirit of debate'

    A retort to the above is that such actions are quite rare and steer the conversation to the idea that everybody who thinks they would have done A, B or C. in a certain event wasn't there.

    They are looking at it in hindsight and not under pressure in the fog of reality. They get to think it through and so forth. When it is coming down on you don't get to do that.

    How many people watch a boxing match or a fight and say "oh! He shoulda done this or shoulda done that"?

    And say these people do know what they are talking about  - they still are not in the fight. They have a totally different perspective and they are not under duress. Your sideline commentaries are fine but beyond irrelevant.

    If the person is truly an experienced combat veteran, say something along the lines of being sure that most people do not have that kind of experience and then note the difference between military life and civilian life - the rules and flow are very different and the type of training and experience he/she has is doubtlessly invaluable, the circumstances are different.

    This will not always be true - and a lot of these folks will snap-to-it in an emergency, armed or not. And some of these people will likely agree with you and scoff at the armchair commandos

    Then mutter something about 'too many movies..."

    The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men.

    by xxdr zombiexx on Sun Jan 20, 2013 at 10:50:18 AM PST

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    •  Well said. (7+ / 0-)
      They are looking at it in hindsight and not under pressure in the fog of reality. They get to think it through and so forth. When it is coming down on you don't get to do that.
      In xaxnar's excellent diary, there is a link to an ABC News special about what happens when untrained civilians with guns are introduced to a crisis situation. The results, if you think about it, were pretty predicable. They froze, or fumbled, or panicked. And - were they in a real situation - they died.

      Also, pardon my "flavor"; it was childish, I know. The subtext (which a couple of people picked up on, you included, it seems) was that I was fighting childishness with more childishness. I tried to be consistently immature in part to illustrate how immature people like James Yeager are.

      Anyway, thank you for the insightful comment(s). I'm glad you were here to lend some grown-up talk to the discussion.

      The problem with going with your gut as opposed to your head is that the former is so often full of shit. - Randy Chestnut

      by lotusmaglite on Sun Jan 20, 2013 at 11:02:13 AM PST

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