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  •  Nice. Thanks, John Crapper (9+ / 0-)

    for reminding us that recycling of waste products is - can be? - a good thing.

    Sad to note, however, from your mention of Japanese reverence for the unko, that since Fukushima they're having a little trouble with using it for anything... er... useful. Accumulating sewage ash from all areas of northern Japan has served only to concentrate the dangerous isotopes released from that disaster, to the point where storage areas are uniformly "roped off" as high radiation areas. Tokyo took to dumping the ash out in the bay, which gets it out of their expanded storage areas (since it's now too radioactive to use as fertilizer so there's nothing else to do with it) but contaminates the aquarian environment offshore more than anybody who loves seafood would like.

    Which, if you think about it, is probably a consequence of the love of seafood (including sea weeds, crustaceans and 'feeder' fish, not to mention dolphins and whales) already grossly contaminated from the ocean dumping ongoing - and now increasing - from Fukushima. Remember, radioactive isotopes in shit got there by having been in food. It's the stuff not incorporated directly into biological tissues, but it certainly zaps the heck outta internals on its way through!

    •  I've been following Fukushima somewhat closely (6+ / 0-)

      and have appreciated your work in this regard.  I was unaware of this particular problem, however.  Sad.  Anybody focused on waste-end considerations cannot be a proponent of nuclear power for exactly that reason.  The world has a short memory for such disasters as Fukushima but its ramifications will be with Japan and the world for a long time. I fear we have only seen the tip of the iceberg.  With such a long time before stabilization of the situation (by TEPCO's own admission) and the probability of another earthquake during that timeframe we have the potential for much more devastation.  

      If we really want to straighten out all this crap we really need to think about shit - Holy Shit.

      by John Crapper on Thu May 09, 2013 at 12:20:40 PM PDT

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      •  Thanks, John. (7+ / 0-)

        I used to live in Amish country (south-central Pennsylvania, Lancaster & York Counties). They saved up their livestock waste all year long, mixed with water in tanks, then spread (via horse-drawn spreaders) on the fields when the snow was finally melting. For about six weeks there in rural areas, the 'environment' was definitely foul-smelling! But it soaked in and decomposed and by summer those farms were offering the best darned organic produce you ever saw or tasted at the driveway entrances along back roads everywhere. I became a big believer in Sh*t, and use it still along with bedding shavings from my ducks to fertilize my truck crops, grapes and tree-fruit. I control their main diet, but not their bug diet. Just have to hope the bugs aren't radioactive or full of heavy metals and mercury...

        Fukushima's never going to be stabilized, nor is it ever going to be "cleaned up." That's impossible, much of it will get out/has gotten out, to be dumped on everybody in the world. Worse, it concentrates up the food chain. Now we'll just have to live (and/or die) with it. Sadly, that impacts the immense uefulness of things like sh*t.

        •  Sadly you are correct. I spend a lot of time (6+ / 0-)

          in working to solve our problems with climate change and the environment in general and I really get irritated with those that are proponents of the expansion of nuclear as a viable solution.  Let's hope, at least, the storage tank above #4 doesn't fall over!  

          The Amish need to be emulated in many respects don't they.  

          If we really want to straighten out all this crap we really need to think about shit - Holy Shit.

          by John Crapper on Thu May 09, 2013 at 01:32:08 PM PDT

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          •  on that - nukes- some of the denial methinks is (2+ / 0-)
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            John Crapper, RiveroftheWest

            designed to delay until things get so bad the big ticket centralized 'solutions' like nukes can be more easily forced on us.

            all of a sudden the GOP will come around and declare the only thing that can save us is nukes.

            on shit, i once found a huge bear turd and managed to barely fit it into a pickle jar as a birthday present. i thought it was an excellent gift.

            coprolites make great presents too.

            This is a list of 76 universities for Rush Limbaugh that endorse global warming denial, racism, sexism, and GOP lies by broadcasting sports on over 170 Limbaugh radio stations.

            by certainot on Thu May 09, 2013 at 08:15:49 PM PDT

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