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  •  Frank Luntz did a poll (4+ / 0-)

    that shows most NRA members support full background checks

    "We didn't set out to save the world; we set out to wonder how other people are doing and to reflect on how our actions affect other people's hearts." - Pema Chodron

    by teacherken on Sun Jan 20, 2013 at 07:40:44 AM PST

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    •  That might be, but are just background checks (1+ / 0-)
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      even close to being sufficient?  With all the guns out there and so many irresponsible gun owners among them, background checks before buying a gun will not prevent those who would fail one from getting a gun.  Background checks are just a beginning.

      And then, how many of them favor background checks even for gun shows and private party sales?  It's easy to word a poll to get a majority to say yes.  I don't find that very convincing, considering what I'm hearing from all the gun toting folks I know.

      "If you trust you are not critical; if you are critical you do not trust" by our own Dauphin

      by gustynpip on Sun Jan 20, 2013 at 09:40:51 AM PST

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      •  So? (0+ / 0-)

        Why do I hear this about every proposal?  Background check by themselves are not enough (So lets not bother)
        Banning high cap clips is not enough (So let's not bother).
        Mental Health screening won't be very effective (So let's not bother).
        The gun lobby has lots of money (So lets not start).

        Let's do each of these things because together we can make a difference.

        Even Democrats can be asses. Look at Rahm Emanuel.

        by Helpless on Sun Jan 20, 2013 at 12:04:44 PM PST

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        •  Did you see me say background checks are (1+ / 0-)
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          not a good idea or that they shouldn't be done???

          I was responding to the comment suggesting that the fact that a majority of NRA members indicated in a poll that they support background checks is evidence that many gun owners are supporting reasonable gun control measures.  I was making the point that I'm not certain that poll is evidence of any such thing.

          Context is everything.

          "If you trust you are not critical; if you are critical you do not trust" by our own Dauphin

          by gustynpip on Sun Jan 20, 2013 at 12:42:47 PM PST

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      •  I know. (0+ / 0-)

        And it keeps running thru my mind that Nancy Lanza was considered a reponsible gun-owner.

        The Onion says----scholars have discovered---the Mayan word for "Apocalypse" in fact---translates more accurately as: "Time of pale obese gun monsters."

        by lyvwyr101 on Sun Jan 20, 2013 at 04:02:10 PM PST

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