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  •  What (0+ / 0-)

    about the government data and studies on gun ownership? The background check analysis?

    Or would you just rather not know?

    That's cool with me, if ya wanna be that way.

    •  I do know (2+ / 0-)

      and what I know, is that those numbers have absofuckinglutley nothing to do with whether the majority of people in this nation do or do not favor passing an Assault Weapons Ban.

      The statement that some people have gone out and bought guns in the face of the proposed restriction does not mean that the majority of people (or even the majority of gun owners) oppose the AWB.  

      Let me just ask a simple question...what proportion of americans went out and bought an assault weapon since Sandy hook?  If you can't answer that question, then your analysis provides absolutely no support for the idea that American People oppose the AWB en masse.

      "Empty vessels make the loudest sound, they have the least wit and are the greatest blabbers" Plato

      by Empty Vessel on Sun Jan 20, 2013 at 03:33:21 PM PST

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      •  Nobody can answer (2+ / 0-)
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        that question, silly. You can't answer that question either. I acknowledged that in the diary, because 40% of guns are sold without a background check.

         Anecdotal information certainly supports that quite a few have been sold, considering that assault rifles and high capacity magazines are reportedly selling out and on back order all over the country.

        The American people oppose anything that makes their weapon illegal. Any elected official that attempts to make their weapon illegal can pretty much kiss reelection goodbye.

        The question the diary puts out there for discussion, is what political price are we willing to pay for gun control as a party?

        You don't seem to want to consider the implications.

        •  I am gonna scream (0+ / 0-)

          WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE...ALL OF THEM...SOME OF THEM...A FEW OF THEM!!!!

          you keep talking about the "American People" oppose anything that makes their weapon illegal.  But that has fuck-all to do with whether or not they think assault weapons should be illegal.

           As a simple matter of fact, we know that some, in fact a majority, are good with restricting Assault Weapons.  We know this because the links that you provided go to surveys of the AMERICAN PEOPLE and over 50% say they support an AWB.

          What have you got that contradicts that? Cause it sure as hell ain't anything in the background check data, cause as you say..."nobody can answer that question, silly."

          "Empty vessels make the loudest sound, they have the least wit and are the greatest blabbers" Plato

          by Empty Vessel on Sun Jan 20, 2013 at 03:52:34 PM PST

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