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  •  Actually that would very much surprise me (7+ / 0-)

    I doubt they've talked at all.  They are not personal friends or allies, they are on the same side only in broad terms in party and ideology.  Given that they both have wanted to be President and in fact ran against each other, nothing would precipitate a conversation to work out anything between them.

    Given their natural rivalry, it would be shocking if they worked out any kind of deal behind closed doors, especially so long in advance.

    And what incentive does either have to yield to the other?  The only incentive for each is the humility of again losing, for Biden a third time and in spectacular fashion as the sitting VP, and for Hillary a second time in equally spectacular fashion as having been both times regarded at the outset as the clear frontrunner.  But that doesn't incentivize any deal behind closed doors for one to yield to the other.  Biden might yield in the end if Hillary runs simply because electoral reality looks bad for him, but it wouldn't require any discussions with Hillary's camp.

    On top of all this, I don't think Hillary wants to run again, which further argues against their having been any discussion with Biden.  Maybe she still would love to be President, but running for President left a bad taste in her mouth.

    I don't think anyone has talked.

    44, male, Indian-American, married and proud father of a girl and 2 boys, Democrat, VA-10

    by DCCyclone on Mon Jan 21, 2013 at 11:00:21 AM PST

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    •  If she doesn't run (5+ / 0-)

      I imagine the reason will mostly be due to tiredness and wanting her own life. But it could just as easily all be calculation. And I don't mean that negatively. We all know how persuasive Bill can be for one. She might also get bored being outside the fish bowl. Time will tell.

      "What do you mean "conspiracy"? Does that mean it's someone's imaginings and that the actual polls hovered right around the result?" - petral

      by conspiracy on Mon Jan 21, 2013 at 11:09:03 AM PST

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    •  I've read Biden actually is quite close... (3+ / 0-)
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      MichaelNY, DCCyclone, bumiputera

      ... to the Clintons. Much closer with them than the Obamas are, and she and Biden meet quite regularly.

      That said, I too doubt there have been any discussions about who runs. Biden obviously wants to run, but he's gearing up regardless of what Hillary does. He may opt out if she runs, but that's a big if at this point, and I doubt he's deferring to her at the outset.

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