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  •  How long can Boehner get away with that? (4+ / 0-)
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    He would be acting for the good of the country but I cannot see how he survives long term with his caucus. They basically become a majority in name only on anything that matters. Can you imagine the reaction round these parts if a Democratic speaker was passing legislation with Republican votes?

    "What do you mean "conspiracy"? Does that mean it's someone's imaginings and that the actual polls hovered right around the result?" - petral

    by conspiracy on Mon Jan 21, 2013 at 11:36:15 AM PST

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    •  Well the Bollweevils had their fun (2+ / 0-)
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      much to Tip O'Neill's dismay, during the 1981-1983 session. The Democrats while having control of the house, lacked true ideological control.

      Thus much of Reagan's tax polies and deregulation bill were passed much in part from the Bollweevils siding with the Republicans.

      Tip O'Neill basically said that Reagan and the Republicans owned the economy at that point and would be to blame if a recession occured (which it did in in '82)

      "Unfortunately when the Republican party needs to be a big tent party it seems to me we are doing everything we can to become a pup tent party. " — Virginia Lt. Gov. Bill Bolling (R)

      by lordpet8 on Mon Jan 21, 2013 at 11:50:44 AM PST

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      •  the main difference here (2+ / 0-)
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        was that Tip O'Neill was not voting with conservative Democrats and Republicans, unlike what Boehner is doing.

        "Unfortunately when the Republican party needs to be a big tent party it seems to me we are doing everything we can to become a pup tent party. " — Virginia Lt. Gov. Bill Bolling (R)

        by lordpet8 on Mon Jan 21, 2013 at 11:52:07 AM PST

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    •  Boehner (1+ / 0-)
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      He can get away with it on bills that a majority of the caucus wants to pass but doesn't want to vote for. The cliff and Sandy bills were both like that. Any budget that could pass the Senate would not, so it would make more sense for the GOP to pass its own budget and negotiate with the Senate assuming that they would prefer some sort of compromise budget to no budget at all. If the Senate passes the budget and the House does nothing, that might look worse politically than compromising with the Senate.

      Then again, "sense" and "House GOP" typically don't go into the same sentence.

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      by sacman701 on Mon Jan 21, 2013 at 12:18:30 PM PST

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      •  I'm just not sure many on the right will care (1+ / 0-)
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        Many House Republicans may well want bills to pass without their votes but the end result is the most important thing to base voters. I think if roles were reversed people could easily argue it a distinction without a difference.

        "What do you mean "conspiracy"? Does that mean it's someone's imaginings and that the actual polls hovered right around the result?" - petral

        by conspiracy on Mon Jan 21, 2013 at 12:24:57 PM PST

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