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  •  All that killing in Indochina (3+ / 0-)
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    made his presidency fail. He cannot in my opinion be judged overall as a great president, but as a great president domestically and a horrible president in terms of foreign policy.

    Formerly Pan on Swing State Project

    by MichaelNY on Mon Jan 21, 2013 at 02:20:59 PM PST

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    •  I think that's right (4+ / 0-)

      LBJ is impossible to categorize because he was both such a spectacular success at home and such a spectacular failure in foreign policy.

      That combination is unique, I don't think there's anyone else who can claim it.

      tommypaine is wrong in suggesting that just any President could've accomplished what LBJ did in civil rights and the Great Society.  Agency at the top matters, these things were not cultural robotics.

      But Vietnam was a long-term disaster in ways not imagined at the time as the first domino to get pushed over in eroding public trust in government.  At the time, there was no guessing that Vietnam would someday put in motion attitudinal changes that would hurt the left on things having nothing to do with national security or foreign policy.  But it did.

      44, male, Indian-American, married and proud father of a girl and 2 boys, Democrat, VA-10

      by DCCyclone on Mon Jan 21, 2013 at 07:26:02 PM PST

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      •  I lived through the Johnson presidency (2+ / 0-)
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        and endorse the views of MichaelNY & DCCyclone.

        I remember thinking at the time that maybe a couple of the ancient republics were onto something, to have one supreme executive for domestic affairs, and another for defense and foreign affairs.

        Hubert Humphrey was irrevocably tainted, for me, by being associated with the foreign policy of the administration he served in.

        A Republican is a person who says we need to rebuild Iraq but not New Orleans. - Temple Stark

        by Christopher Walker on Tue Jan 22, 2013 at 08:37:30 AM PST

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