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  •  question about catholics in the Northeast (0+ / 0-)

    what percent of catholics would you say, support abortion rights in the bluest NE states (MA, NY, RI)? Although there are plenty of pro-life politicians in said states, the states overall have some of the more liberal abortion laws in the country.

    What I find interesting is that those states also happen to be the most heavily catholic in the country? So do a lot of catholics there support abortion rights or is it sort of like Mississippi where having a large black population doesn't automatically make it a dem stronghold (ie racial polarization or in the case of the NE, religious polarization)

    RRH expat (known as AquarianLeft). Also known as freepcrusher on leip atlas forum

    by demographicarmageddon on Mon Jan 21, 2013 at 09:57:17 PM PST

    •  I don't know what the figures are specifically (3+ / 0-)

      in the Northeast, but nationwide, figures on support for choice among Catholics have been very similar to figures on support from the public, overall.

      Formerly Pan on Swing State Project

      by MichaelNY on Mon Jan 21, 2013 at 10:47:31 PM PST

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    •  MichaelNY is correct (4+ / 0-)

      Catholics nationwide are about the same on abortion as non-Catholics.  A lot of people talk about "The Catholic vote" like they're some monolithic, homogeneous group of unified political persuasion (often stereotyped to be culturally conservative on abortion and gay rights, yet liberal on spending and taxation), when that's hardly the case.  There's massive differences in Catholics around the country depending on their ancestry, from those of Irish in New England, Cuban in Florida, Polish and German in the Great Lakes states, French in Louisiana, Filipino in Hawaii...even in the same area (such as Puerto Rican vs. Italian in New York), and of the same ethnicity in different areas, such as Mexican in Texas vs. California.

      They are such disparate people that I don't think there's any real conclusions to be drawn from studies that group them all together, any more than there are from studies or polls of "Western states" which lump in states like California, Utah, New Mexico, and Montana despite the vast demographic and political differences.  In short, Catholics tend to have similar numbers to the overall population because they are so diverse that they represent a sizable cross-section of the country.

      Anyway, to return to the original question, I'd guess the Catholics in New England are pretty similar on abortion to non-Catholics in New England, as they are nationally.  That's just a guess, but seems to stack up with what I've seen (anecdotally and otherwise) of Catholics from the northeast.  They tend to be fairly independent of church orthodoxy and are reflective of what you would expect based on the region's political leanings: that is, pro-choice and pretty liberal on all issues.

    •  a lot of Catholics in RI are "cafeteria Catholics" (1+ / 0-)
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      RI is def a pro-choice state.

      Living in Kyoto-06 (Japan), voting in RI-01, went to college in IL-01.

      by sapelcovits on Tue Jan 22, 2013 at 01:23:42 AM PST

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