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  •  kovie, there will always be those people (4+ / 0-)
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    the rest of their politics aside.  I think the gun-loving minority of the gun-owning minority has within it another small minority who, like many of the religious extremist right, are really single-issue voters.  Guns are part of their identity, and make up the core of their religious convictions.  I believe it is wrong to call them 'gun fanatics' because there are too many of them.  I would refer to them as "gun-lifestyle" Americans, and there are "gun-lifestyle" people in every society in which this technology is used and allowed.  Anyone who validates the belief in gun-ownership and gun-use and gun-carry in the most unrestricted, individualistic sense imaginable are part of this lifestyle.  I would put Sarah Palin in this category, along with a small minority of Teapublicans.  And what we will be facing down, in the near-term and in political confrontations ahead, are separating the gun-lifestylers from the rest of those Americans who are truly interested in keeping weapons of widespread destruction out of the hands of would-be mass killers, and who can live with tighter restrictions on gun registration and ammunition ownership, because it won't even touch them.

    "Kossacks are held to a higher standard. Like Hebrew National hot dogs." - blueaardvark

    by louisev on Mon Jan 21, 2013 at 12:49:23 AM PST

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    •  Beyond lifestyle (0+ / 0-)

      WAY beyond lifestyle, which tends to not be deep for most people. For these people, it's a kind of religion, or pre-religion, a sort of tribal thing that at its core is completely irrational, both in their love of guns as such, and in their delusions about what guns do for them and protect them from, as more than the mere tools that they are, but an extension of their identity, like being Jewish or Muslim or straight or gay or progressive or conservative, only nutty, because unlike a religion or orientation or value system, a gun is a thing, not an identity or value. Personally, I think the guns are a stand-in for something else that they actually want and need, but lost, or think they lost, like their manhood or identity as a southern male or self-respect as a provider, worker or soldier. They have been deeply wounded in some way, or their group has, and guns are compensation, especially because their group has always valued (but not necessarily revered, when they still had their lost pride) them.

      I find a lot in common between these extreme types (but certainly not most gun owners, who like and respect guns but don't worship them), and Jihadis and southern Lost Causers. They lost something profound to them, and are no longer brokering in reality or complete human beings. Making them dangerous.

      "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

      by kovie on Mon Jan 21, 2013 at 09:28:09 PM PST

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