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  •  Almost Sad..... (14+ / 0-)

    Looking @ the homemade signs carried by the pro gun rally yesterday on "Gun Appreciation Day", was unreal.

    There were signs like "unarmed....for now" or "unarmed....this time".

    Their private stock of weapons is not going to whip the US military into shape.  It's grown too big, too powerful....mainly at the behest of the right wing.  They wanted a strong army, second to none.  Well, that's what they got.  That's what they told their reps & senators  to vote for.  They don't want to cut the Pentagon during the sequestration.....even now.

    They got what they wanted.  Now what?  

    •  Our pro-gun rally at the Capitol in Phoenix (14+ / 0-)

      yesterday featured a lot of similar signs -- suggesting that they are the only people who will save America from tyranny. First, what Obama is proposing is not tyranny; it's what the majority of Americans want. That's called democracy. Second, if they think they're going to stand up to our military with their stockpile at home, then they're nuttier than I thought they were. Perhaps they have not heard of missiles, drones, or nasty-ass tanks.

      stay together / learn the flowers / go light - Gary Snyder

      by Mother Mags on Sun Jan 20, 2013 at 06:42:44 PM PST

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      •  Precisely..... (6+ / 0-)

        If they start some kind of a revolution, the drone attacks will commence.  Their fantasy seems to be hand to hand combat at the end of their drive way or ye local parking lot of Walmart @ high noon.

        It's a pipe dream.  They have nothing to compare w/ a drone swipe of their neighborhood @ the slightest hint of insurrection.  Waco & Ruby Ridge were a long time ago & a million eons ago in a technological tit for tat.  

        •  Ask the Pakistani Taliban about that... (2+ / 0-)
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          Problem with Drone attacks is that they tend to radicalize the population because they kill people who are clearly non-combatants.  

          Good counter insurgency is lead by good intelligence.  It also helps that in America warts and all, we have it pretty good.  

          Under capitalism man exploits man, under communism the roles are reversed.

          by DavidMS on Sun Jan 20, 2013 at 07:30:05 PM PST

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          •  Often A Survivor Of A Battle..... (4+ / 0-)

            in history is let go on purpose.  He would be used to get the word back to the others.  One good swipe w/ a drone in the United States would be shall we say.....a wake up call.

            Many of the folks @ the Gun Appreciation Day looked passionate but older, kind of out of shape & 99% white.

            I think the US military could take them.....even if some of them went AWOL which is what the FOX crowd is counting on.  

            •  I am worried about the ones not at the rally... (1+ / 0-)
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              Yes the Local Police, Sherif's Dept, State Police and FBI could take them but any clumsiness could make the matter worse.  

              Resupply for them would be a problem until they learned where to steal it and how to smuggle supplies in.  Given the right's tenancy to splinter and, lack of professionalism, they would be locally dangerous and difficult to smother.  Not an expert but it would take years to suppress them.  Take a look at the ETA and Forest Brothers.

              I hope the right doesn't do anything too stupid...

              Under capitalism man exploits man, under communism the roles are reversed.

              by DavidMS on Sun Jan 20, 2013 at 08:05:11 PM PST

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              •  Five Of Them Shot Themselves Or Others..... (4+ / 0-)

                by accident at three different gun shows on Saturday in Ohio, Indiana & North Carolina.

                Their guns discharged by accident or because they left a bullet in the chamber.  Not exactly a professional, well honed crowd.

                Shooting at a target in the shooting gallery or @ a bale of hay in the back yard isn't quite the same as a well trained, professional military unit.

                75% of the mass murders since the 1980's were in gun free zones like high schools, movie theaters, malls, or elementary schools.  If they start something, things won't stay weapon free for long.  .  

                •  I can't figure that one out... (2+ / 0-)
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                  I have been to a few gun shows (good for buying accessories, not so good for buying guns) and remember that all guns are checked at the door (empty magazine, chamber and with a zip tie through the action) to prevent this sort of thing.  

                  Had a friend who sweped me twice with an empty gun.  I chewed on him both times as did a few other people.  He now respects the 4 rules.  Everyone should be required to take a gun safety class before taking possession of a gun.  

                  There are also plenty of idiots who write down their computer passwords and put the sticky label under the keyboard.  

                  There are just some people you can't reach.  

                  Under capitalism man exploits man, under communism the roles are reversed.

                  by DavidMS on Sun Jan 20, 2013 at 09:33:28 PM PST

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                  •  In the case of the (1+ / 0-)
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                    3 people being shot at the one gun show - it was the gun check point person who screwed up - by pointing a weapon into a crowd of people before he'd verified the gun was unloaded.

                    It was also the fault of the gun owner for not verifying the gun was unloaded before carrying it from his vehicle into the gun show.

                    Two blatant rules violations, and three people get shot.

                    Gun safety and regulation is supposed to come from the gun owners. After all, they are presumably the most knowledgeable and would know what would be the most effective.  When their response is to arm everybody, trained or not, they have failed in their societal duty, and it then becomes incumbent upon the rest of society to work to resolve the unsafe use of guns in our society.

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                    by Noddy on Mon Jan 21, 2013 at 12:09:04 PM PST

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      •  If you look at the photos (9+ / 0-)

        from the various rallies, you can easily determine that for the most part the attendees are older mostly white males, many of them sorely out of shape.

        These are the guys who are going to save us from tyranny?  

        I am a warrior for peace. And not a gentle man... Steve Mason, 1940-2005

        by Wayward Wind on Sun Jan 20, 2013 at 07:09:06 PM PST

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      •  People Appreciation Day (5+ / 0-)

        In response to the accidental shootings, the National Association of Rifles has announced that in 30 days, for all the guns that don't hurt people, there will be a People Appreciation Day.

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