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    more strongly legislate cars and guns, right?  Even with the advent of texting, increased numbers of vehicles on the road, etc., automobile deaths are not increasing at a proportional rate, and gun deaths are increasing.  

    Thanks for the great regulation ideas.

    "Kindly go render the fat in your head in a large kettle of boiling water. Thank you." - Bumblebums -7.38, -6.46

    by balancedscales on Mon Jan 21, 2013 at 11:35:36 PM PST

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    •  yes, we should more strongly regulate (1+ / 0-)
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      both automobile safety and gun safety.  The number of deaths we tolerate per year from both is insane.  We have significantly increased the safety of cars (without banning most of them) but still have a long way to go . . . largly in reducing operator error (still the major cause of automobile deaths).

      There are, of course, differences.  Automobiles have a (relatively) short service life, so the entire fleet can be replaced with safer vehicles in just a couple decades (we don't much worry about fitting seatbelts or "modern" headlamps to a 56 Ford . . . there aren't any in service to retrofit), while guns have a much longer service life (I have three fully functional ones that predate 1956).  And things like tires have been much improved . . . "blowouts", once common, are now very rare.  There has been no equivalent in firearms (that wouold increase their safety).

      And with guns there is an additional "operator problem" . . . firearm deaths occur not just "by accident" but by design.  Mostly by design. That's rare with automobiles (and the ones that are specifically designed for killing are impractical for anything else).  Obviously:

      We need to stop automobile owners from killing people by accident, and

      We need to stop gun owners from killing people on purpose.

      Those are different problems, and will require different approaches to their solution.  At the present time people in cars kill three times as many victims as people with guns do (unless you include victims of war in the calculation), which suggests that car control should be our first priority (if the end goal is saving lives).  But that doesn't mean ignoring gun control . . . while the end result may be the same (though less common) there is something particularly offensive to the civilized mind about deliberate killing.   We need to find the cause of it.  We need to stop it. If there are uncontrolably violent people among us who simply cannot be trusted with guns we need to find a way to keep them separated from guns.  Or perhaps we need to find a way to simply dispose of those people entirely, since it's a reasonable assumption that they won't be safe around knives or baseball bats or, probably, automobiles either.

      Fake Left, Drive Right . . . not my idea of a Democrat . . .

      by Deward Hastings on Tue Jan 22, 2013 at 01:52:54 AM PST

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