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  •  No (0+ / 0-)

    the M-1 Garand used the .30-06, the round used in the Springfield. The .308 is the same caliber, but the shell is shorter. Even though it holds a little less powder it is considered a better round. It offers functionally identical ballistic performance with a shorter round and a bit less powder. The cartridge head is the same (of course it it - it's really a knock-off of the '98 Mauser).

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    by dhonig on Mon Jan 21, 2013 at 09:17:07 PM PST

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    •  '98 Mauser as in Argentine Mauser, (0+ / 0-)

      the one I had to move heaven and earth to find a box of soft-nose ammunition for my brother in law for?

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      by BlackSheep1 on Mon Jan 21, 2013 at 09:25:02 PM PST

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      •  Depends (1+ / 0-)
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        a lot of the South American Mausers are 1895 models, not 1898 models. The difference is huge. The '95 had a two-lug bolt. The '98 had a three-lug bolt. The latter was MUCH stronger, and formed the basis for most of the military weapons for decades to follow. The British didn't use it, only because WWI broke out before they were able to make the change. Every other major army in the world switched to '98 Mauser licensed bolt action rifles.

        If the Argentine Mauser is 8mm, it is probably a '98. If it's 7mm, it is probably a '95.

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        by dhonig on Tue Jan 22, 2013 at 08:16:53 AM PST

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        •  it's a 7.65x53. buddabelly showed me (0+ / 0-)

          a place to look it up. Serial number traces it to 1894 manufacture.

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          by BlackSheep1 on Tue Jan 22, 2013 at 10:01:35 AM PST

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          •  Two-lug bolt (1+ / 0-)
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            not '98 pattern, the classic Mauser.

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            by dhonig on Tue Jan 22, 2013 at 11:47:02 AM PST

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            •  I'm told I could reload using altered (0+ / 0-)

              .308 brass but it'd be one-time-only ... defeats the purpose, doesn't it?

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              by BlackSheep1 on Tue Jan 22, 2013 at 12:06:22 PM PST

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              •  Hornady still makes the cartridge (0+ / 0-)

                as do some European makers.

                It is possible to cut down .30-06 brass - it uses the same head. However, you can't load to .308 specs. Modern .308/.30-06 cartridges are based on a much stronger bolt. The .308 is a tad short.

                It doesn't really make sense, given the proper load, that you could only use the new casing one time.

                There is a thread HERE about reloading for this gun including resizing dies.

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                by dhonig on Tue Jan 22, 2013 at 01:34:30 PM PST

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                •  Hornaday for this one's backordered (0+ / 0-)

                  everywhere I checked. If you know a better source, please kosmail?

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                  by BlackSheep1 on Tue Jan 22, 2013 at 01:42:56 PM PST

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