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  •  Glad to hear you support registration, so 4473 (1+ / 0-)
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    would be filed on every firearm sold/transferred, even private sales and gun shows?  Now that would be progress.

    Do you also support licensing to make sure people are "aware of their responsibility for securing their weapons?" I don't expect you need any lessons on this issue, but many people that don't know any basics of gun safety buy firearms all the time - the only way I can see that all are made aware of basic safety rules is some licensing system where people have to pass a test to prove they can handle and store a firearm safely.  I have seen plenty of dangerous handling and reckless storing that, even if it is a minority, is a very large number in absolute terms.

    I agree that a lot of the blame in the Newtown case lies with Lanza's mother for keeping this small arsenal in their home, but pretty much any teenager will get access to their parent's gun if they want to, regardless of safe storage (my dad knew that I had played with loaded revolvers at neighbors' houses when I was 4-5 years old - they hid them and we always found them - so he when he got a 9 mm Parabellum he had a special locked case for it and I just stole the keys one time and made a copy, so as a teenager I had access to this pistol pretty much any time I wanted and my dad was not around. Luckily none of my friends/family ever got hurt, but I do know many that were.)

    Then they came for me - and by that time there was nobody left to speak up.

    by DefendOurConstitution on Mon Jan 21, 2013 at 02:18:12 PM PST

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    •  I'll disagree with the implication (0+ / 0-)
      ...but pretty much any teenager will get access to their parent's gun if they want to.
      I will not presume to speak for the upbringing of anyone that I wasn't there to witness, but in households that I knew where guns were present, there was one absolute, inviolable edict - DO NOT FUCK WITH THE GUNS.  EVER.

      Me and my friends were no angels, our respective parents were not cut from the same cloth, but there were lines, and there were LINES.

      Guns weren't treated as some mysterious taboo, eliciting natural curiosity, but presented as extraordinarily dangerous tools, but tools just the same.  Just as a circular saw unplugged on the workbench can do terrible damage, it is not imbued with some sort of self-possessed intent (actually I was more interested in power tools growing up, than guns).

      To reiterate, I don't think that any of my friends would rather be fucking with a gun on their own than being caught by their parents while drunk driving.  So maybe that's the prism through which I see the current state of parenting, where criminal carelessness is in abundance compared to what I knew of in 1980's suburbia.

      I see a very beautiful planet that seems very inviting and peaceful. Unfortunately, it is not.…We're better than this. We must do better. Cmdr Scott Kelley

      by wretchedhive on Mon Jan 21, 2013 at 05:52:54 PM PST

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    •  coming back to the idea (0+ / 0-)

      that so-called licensing will insure awareness...  I'll only point to every idiot on the road today to refute that presumption.

      I want prophylactic solutions that will abate violence.  There are many here who are arguing what color to paint the barn after the horses took off.

      I see a very beautiful planet that seems very inviting and peaceful. Unfortunately, it is not.…We're better than this. We must do better. Cmdr Scott Kelley

      by wretchedhive on Mon Jan 21, 2013 at 08:02:05 PM PST

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