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  •  Thanks! (5+ / 0-)

    I'm 20+ years from retirement and will be happy to be a bargaining chip in this deal. Not because I expect not to need the money, but because there is plenty of time to reverse some of those cuts depending on where the economy goes.

    I'd rather take cuts to my retirement 20+ years away than cuts to education today that will result in less taxable national income 20+ years down the road.

    Ideally, we won't have to sacrifice either, but if it comes to a grand bargain, I'll take "no soup, tomorrow" than "no soup, today".

    (Don't flame please. Just my view.)

    •  I heart you (3+ / 0-)
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      Bronxist, northcountry21st, sja

      I am 44yrs old.  I completely agree.  Hopefully this will act as a firewall from any flame wars against you and I will take them instead.

      Mmmmm. Sprinkles. - H.J. Simpson.

      by ten canvassers on Mon Jan 21, 2013 at 05:43:54 PM PST

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      •  I'm ten years older... (2+ / 0-)
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        ten canvassers, Bronxist

        ...and I'm with both of you, so make room in that bunker you're digging. I'll bring the sun block if you bring the Powerade Zero. (I'm diabetic.)

        Equating any changes that might happen in the above deal to the end of the world -- or, worse, to Dubya's attempt to chuck SS part and parcel into the not-so-gentle "invisible" hands of the Free Market -- is both naive and wrong. The key is to get the economy going, make cuts from the defense side with a scalpel (as opposed to a meat axe) and get more revenue from the tax side -- specifically, more revenue from the people who can (and should) pay it. You want Utopia? Go to a Todd Rundgren concert.

        Bronxist nailed it Derek Jeter style:

        I'd rather take cuts to my retirement 20+ years away than cuts to education today that will result in less taxable national income 20+ years down the road.
        Oh, hell yeah!

        "If you're going to go down with the ship, make it a submarine." - Wayne Shorter

        by Oliver Tiger on Mon Jan 21, 2013 at 07:39:08 PM PST

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    •  The 19% cut made to SS for people born in '60 (1+ / 0-)
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      Bronxist

      and later, cuts made during the Reagan administration, have not been reversed.  Any new cuts will pile on top of existing cuts.

      SS doesn't add any cost to the debt.  None.  We need jobs.

      That's my view anyway.

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