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  •  Then I fail to (2+ / 0-)
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    see why BO cites the guy with admiration.  But then, that's been a puzzle to me since BO came on the scene.

    I really want to know what BO thinks was changed by Reagan--BO obviously doesn't think bad things happened.

    Maybe I misunderstood the meaning of BO's comment.

    The banks have a stranglehold on the political process. Mike Whitney

    by dfarrah on Mon Jan 21, 2013 at 02:02:31 PM PST

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    •  I don't see it that way (11+ / 0-)

      I don't think saying "Reagan changed the course of the country" is necessarily a statement of admiration. It could equally well be a statement of recognition of the exact things bunnygirl60 pointed out.

      If he sees Reagan the way that bunnygirl60 does, then "Reagan changed the course of the country, and I want to make a similar change to the course of the country" is perfectly defensible as a way of recognizing that Reagan made a big change for the worse to the way that Americans think about their country... and he wants to reverse it.

      Meanwhile, stating that viewpoint in a way that sounds like it's admiring of Reagan, or at least has a kind of "plausible deniability" to the audience of Reagan-admirers, means that the people who did admire Reagan (either with or without understanding what his policies were actually doing) pay attention to what Obama is saying rather than tuning him out.

      The thing about changing the world... Once you do it, the world's all different. (Joss Whedon, BtVS Season 8 "The long way home")

      by sab39 on Mon Jan 21, 2013 at 02:16:45 PM PST

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    •  Yes, you are misunderstanding (1+ / 0-)
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      As did most people back in early 2008 when Senator Obama originally made the comment.

      Obama was not admiring Reagan's policies, but was showing respect --if not admiration-- for the ability of Reagan and his handlers to frame and shift the conversation in a cheerful, positive manner.

      The Gipper and his criminal conspirators could, indeed pull that off.

      In addition, candidate Obama was probably making a gesture toward Blue Dogs and "Reagan Democrats".

      -Jay-
      

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