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  •  Nothing to see here folks , move along , (7+ / 0-)

    have a look see at the couple of century old document in the case over there . It was written back in the good old days , no cars so you could not use them as weapons , no airplanes - same same , no refrigeration , no radio , indoor pluming not so much , women and blacks knew their place .

    "Drop the name-calling." Meteor Blades 2/4/11

    by indycam on Fri Jan 25, 2013 at 08:46:58 PM PST

    •  Interesting thoughts... (3+ / 0-)

      I have a century old "gun fail" case from my own family, from 'good old days' exactly as you describe...'law abiding responsible gun owner', and yet it ends in tragedy.  Some things never change.

      When banjos are outlawed, only outlaws will have banjos.

      by Bisbonian on Sat Jan 26, 2013 at 05:12:19 AM PST

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      •  me too.... (3+ / 0-)
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        "Beer and a Gun- another drunken Murder in Topeka" was the headline.  Always heard my great grandfather died in a hunting accident- turned out he was hunting beer at a German baseball game and his drunken friend shot him in the face with a shotgun.  We never told Grandma about how her dad died, but there is a warning for all genealogists there.

        You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you mad. Aldous Huxley

        by murrayewv on Sat Jan 26, 2013 at 08:54:59 AM PST

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    •  That document absolutely anticipated such things (1+ / 0-)
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      in a general (the only possible) sense, via the "necessary and proper" clause in Article I, Section 8, that granted the federal government the power to do whatever it saw fit to carry out its constitutional duties, giving it implied powers way beyond its enumerated powers (but restricted to having to be legitimately derived from those powers).

      Duties like, oh, promoting the general welfare. Which gave it as much of a right to regulate commerce for our own good (and, say, force us all to have health insurance) as it did to regulate gun sales and ownership in ways that are clearly meant and likely to protect us from each other and do not unnecessarily and arbitrarily impinge upon our rights (which is why the Alien and Sedition Acts were an overreach, but the ACA was not).

      What many in the RKBA crowd do not realize or are willing to acknowledge is that no rights are absolute, the government has the power and really duty to regulate (i.e. limit) those rights when necessary and proper (e.g. to save lives), and that individual rights and liberties and government powers and duties are and forever will be in tension. In fact the constitution was set up that way on purpose. It was the ultimate "centrist" document.

      "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

      by kovie on Mon Jan 28, 2013 at 06:59:57 AM PST

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