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    This movie has bothered me ever since I saw it, for many of the very reasons you mention, not to mention Bigelow's intellectually dishonest comments about it afterward.  Someone had insisted to me, before I saw "Zero Dark Thirty," the torture scenes were there for realism and the film didn't endorse torture, it just addressed it realistically.  How so very wrong he turned out to be.  I actually said "Oh, come on!" out loud in the theater (the lunch scene where the torture victim suddenly sang like a canary).

    When there's a scene showing characters shaking their heads as President-elect Obama speaks out against torture, Bigelow has no moral right to try to convince anyone this isn't a political movie.

    Visually, the movie was well made.  Philosophically and factually, it lied its ass off.

    “Nice country you got here. Shame if something were to happen to it” --the GOP philosophy to governing as described by Paul Krugman

    by dwayne on Thu Jan 24, 2013 at 04:27:48 AM PST

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      I don't think the CIA agents in that scene shook their heads when Obama spoke out against torture. It's interesting how people see and remember things differently. What I observed was that Jessica Chastain and Jennifer Ehle were talking, sitting at a commissary table, they paused for a few seconds when Obama's comments came on the TV behind them, and they turned and listened, then immediately resumed their conversation. It was done very subtly, because neither of them actually showed how they felt -- which makes sense, because they were in a public place so they couldn't. Also because in the world Bigelow created, nobody talked to anybody about torture. (Which is not accurate of what was really going on in the agencies, according to Jane Mayer, the author of "The Dark Side," but that's the aesthetic of the film.) If anything I had the impression there was a slight chill in the air as they listened, like they were worried there might be prosecutions. But what was left out of the movie was ultimately a sense of guilt or conscience about the torture.

      “Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world; indeed, it's the only thing that ever has.” --Margaret Mead

      by Jennifer A Epps on Thu Jan 24, 2013 at 11:19:26 AM PST

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